This was kinda brought to me be a guy who said science could answer philosophical questions:
"There is no inherent ‘self’, and research supports this. Like a group of cells working together, where each cell performs specific functions. On its own, a cell doesn’t exhibit self-awareness, but when cells group together, they coordinate and can perform more complex tasks, like tissue formation or organ development.
It may appear as if a ‘self’ is emerging, but this is not true self-awareness. There is no singular, central ‘self.’ What we perceive as coordinated behavior is a quasi-self, an emergent property arising from the interactions between cells. The ‘self’ is a concept we impose, while in reality, it’s a product of collective responses and emergent behavior. Its just chemicals reacting to responses ,period. If anyone doesn't come to that same conclusion they haven't dug deep enough."
"Its a hard concept, people can look and act normal. But that's just a response from them internally. For example… Love is not a thing, love is just being familiar with something. Being familiar is knowing something is not a threat and its helpful.
This means your cells don't need to give out stress responses so they release good feeling chemicals. This makes you smile and enjoy the interaction. Doesn't mean you choose to do this. It just happens from inside. We just justify it as our decision but its not Its hard to understand if you don't study it"
“I'm not non binary but see people as people not sexes being that's what we all are is a pile of cells and quirky personalities. And the more connections we have the longer we can live and thrive so thats me. I sleep well but I don't think you meant it in the proper sense.”
"Check out Thomas Metzinger, Anil Seth, Evan Thompson many many others"
I checked out the philosophers, the only one who seems to say it doesn't exist is Thomas Metzinger. Anil Seth has a very nuanced take on the self. But the most I found when it comes to the self is that science doesn't really know. Some say yes and that it's an emergent phenomenon of the brain, others say no.
Though IMO calling people just "a pile of cells" sounds like a gross misunderstanding of what is going on in living things.
I guess the idea just bugs me, like if there is no self then what does that mean ethically? What about living? It just raises a lot of questions I don't have answers to.
When I read others saying similarly I wonder how they live and feel about "others":
I was very exited to read this book. As someone who, out of nowhere one day, realized with every cell in my body that there is no local self... no little man behind the eyes. That what is “me” is just a collection of highly inaccurate cultural beliefs, sensory impressions, stories etc... I wanted to read Metzinger’s take on the latest views from science and philosophy. Sadly, he ended the plausibility of his book on page 20 with the following statement.
Does this mean "people" stop mattering? I hear the "self" referred to as a story so is that what "people" reduce to? Sounds bleak.