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Drafting Articles

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An experienced wikipedian created a username subpage for me to work on an article I had drafted in text file offline per the recommendation of other wikipedians. I am making major changes to the article because I am condensing it significantly, among other things. But, because I wrote the entire article, it seems inappropriate to label any of the changes "major", yet the wiki definition when publishing to save any change requires it. I didn't use my sandbox because this article is to turn an existing few sentence stub article into a full article, and there was some concern about maintaining the history of that stub article even though it is only a few sentences with a redirect link. So far, I haven't gotten a message from an administrator about my characterization of the changes but all of them are going to show up eventually when the draft is moved from my userpage subpage to the namespace of the subject. Any suggestions about what is essentially a lot of worthless history and continuing drafting this way? Thanks. Emanresu0 (talk) 20:16, 18 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Emanresu0 and welcome to the Teahouse. Do not label the changes you are making as "minor". See Help:minor edit. There is a very specific meaning in Wikipedia rather than the usual meaning of not a major change: Any edit that alters the meaning of an article, even slightly, is not minor. That means any addition to an article is not minor. Leave the "minor" tag for correcting typos, etc. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:44, 18 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Emanresu0 I think you may be overthinking this. A minor edit is a typo that you fix or a source that you add the author's name to. Of your 82 edits, I only see about 11 that might count as minor edits where you've changed 1-20 characters. If in doubt, don't mark them minor. MmeMaigret (talk) 12:50, 20 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
you understood that I wrote the entire article and I made all the changes because the article is still a draft? Of course i saw the definitions, but they seem meaningless in this situation. Apparently, the only way to avoid all the meaningless history is to draft offline and then post to a user page or sandbox when ready for comments before moving to the article namespace. Thx Emanresu0 (talk) 19:14, 21 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Emanresu0 It doesn't matter in this case; there's nothing wrong with not marking your edits as "minor". David10244 (talk) 07:27, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Whew! Your reply is a meaningful response to my question. Thank you. I could not figure out why I had not gotten a message from an administrator about labelling my edits as minor based on the definitions alone creating a violation. Logic made me question the applicability of the definitions for major and minor edits when drafting an entire article from scratch, with all the work and edits mine alone.
I plan to finish this draft soon and then ask the Teahouse for comments and include a link to the userpage. Thereafter, I will need help moving the article to the article namespace so the stub article becomes a full article. If you can help me with that, I would greatly appreciate it.
Also, I have done everything to comply with the copyright requirements for images of the architecture relevant to this article. They are still inaccessible even though the wiki commons process was completed by the copyright owner unltimately. Therefore, I've deleted references in the text to those images so that this article can be posted without them. But, it would be a great improvement to this article about architecture to include the images at some point. If you can help me with the images, that would be much appreciated. Emanresu0 (talk) 19:49, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Emanresu0, may I assume you are talking about your user subpage, User:Emanresu0/C.W. Kim Expansion/Condensed? There is already an existing article about the topic, C.W. Kim, and Wikipedia understands the word move in a very particular sense, which means 'renaming your page', and if that is what you meant, please do not attempt to move your page to the current article title. (You probably won't be able to anyway, as you are still new.) If you meant, move the *content* of your user page *into* the existing article, that is permitted. In that case, you could have dispensed with your user subpage entirely and simply edited the existing article directly, step by step, just as you have been doing on your subpage. But given where you are now, if you mean to move content into the existing article, you already have permissions to do that, and you won't have to ask for anybody's help to do it. Mathglot (talk) 05:39, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for another very helpful reply. You correctly surmised that I want to "add" all of my draft to the existing namespace stub article on C.W. Kim. I was originally told to use a subpage to make all of my changes, so I did. I thought I needed to have an administrator add my draft to an existing article. I also want to be sure adding such a large amount of text and references does not get reverted because someone thinks I used LLM or feels the tone is too promotional (not neutral enough). Do you know if there is a way for the "right" person to add my draft to the existing article when I am finished with the draft? Emanresu0 (talk) 16:04, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Emanresu0, Tl;dr: you are the right person if anyone is (i.e., not someone else), but doing so is not the best approach, in my opinion. Here's why.
There is a practical aspect here that may make it possible for you to do what you wish (i.e., merge your entire subpage into the article) perhaps without objection, that in the general case might cause some strife and result in frustration on your part, but that might work in this particular situation by accident of circumstance. Let me explain.
Because there are few watchers of this page, and it is neither contententious, nor, frankly, a page that is of wide public interest (about 4 page views/day), it may be that you can merge your content into the article without objection, on the theory that no one is watching/no one cares. That doesn't mean it is the best strategy or a good idea; it just means you might get away with cutting corners and taking an inadvisable approach *in this case*. (No guarantees, though.)
However, I would strongly advise against this in the general case, and recommend you not try it again. At the C.W. Kim article, I see that you tried it once before with a 32kb addition last month which was reverted for cause by NicheSports. What I would do if I were you, is one (or more) of three things:
  • ask NicheSports directly if they wouldn't mind having a quick look at your user subpage, User:Emanresu0/C.W. Kim Expansion/Condensed, and give their opinion about whether it is now ready to be merged/copied into the live article;
  • write a message on the Talk page, Talk:C.W. Kim, asking for review of your Draft (it might not be seen by many, but see WP:APPNOTE);
  • submit your draft to WP:Afc for review by a team of specially trained editors, and wait for a response. This likely will take some time, but in the meantime, you could work on other things.
If I were you, I would probably go with #3, and I have added an Afc draft submission header to your subpage for your convenience, should you wish to use it. Hope this helps. Mathglot (talk) 18:38, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Pinged here. I likely do not have time to perform an adequate review of the proposed expansion so I agree with Mathglot's suggestion. I want to note that after discussion with Emanresu0 I no longer believe [1] that the non-neutral language in the original article expansion was caused by LLM involvement. Emanresu0 and I subsequently had a good conversation at User Talk:Emanresu0 § Suggestions for edits to C.W. Kim about how to improve the article and I tried to help them as best as I could. Wishing the best for a positive experience at AfC. NicheSports (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. I will follow your recommendation when I am ready to submit the draft. This entire process has been incredibly challenging with few helpful comments so yours are much appreciated. For some reason your last comment about Afc was deleted from my messages icon and I only stumbled across it here when I went to your old message to thank you. If you know any way to get the images I that both I and the copyright holder uploaded to wiki commons via its vrt link and email, please let me know. Emanresu0 (talk) 16:11, 26 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Before finishing and submitting my draft article for Afc review, I am wondering whether I should copy and paste it to a new subpage so that it does not have all the irrelevant history about my changes while drafting. If so, I would need you to insert the same box for me to submit the new draft to Afc for review. I read somewhere that the copy and paste approach was not acceptable because all the history of edits to an article is lost in that process, but in this case, I would think that objection does not apply. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and again thank you for your help either way. Emanresu0 (talk) 23:39, 26 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's completely unnecessary. First, in the normal course of events, when you publish a draft article it includes that very history of editing the page that you've called irrelevant - wikipedia records the edit history precisely because we do not think it's irrelevant and no one cares if you edited the page 50 times. However, because the article already exists, your subpage is not going to be published - someone will have to decide how to incorporate that material into the main article. MmeMaigret (talk) 00:16, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Working on an article

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Hi guys, I’ve been working on an article lately, as seen in:

Draft:Mobile Guardian

I previously used too much AI to generate the entire article for me, and it therefore get rejected, so I changed almost everything in the article, and added some new information that I found myself. Please note that I did still use AI but only to turn the sources I found myself into Wikipedia compatible citations. I tried my best to match the correct tone of Wikipedia. I submitted it already, but I wanted to get some quick feedback before it gets reviewed. I especially want to know whether this topic is notable enough or not, so that I know whether I should even keep working on this draft.

Before anybody asks, I believe that the Top 3 sources for notability in this article are:

  • The Straits Times
  • CNA
  • TechCrunch

Thanks for your feedback, and if you didn’t leave any, thanks for doing nothing! 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 13:33, 22 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Gileselig, and welcome to the Teahouse!
I looked over your article and it seems pretty good to me. This may be a hot take, but I think it's generally less problematic to use LLMs (AI) to help with the creation of an article, as long as a human (you!) reviews the output carefully to avoid use of an unencyclopedic tone or hallucinations, as well as avoiding the risk of copyright violations.
I haven't written a full article for mainspace yet, but I can understand that writing the citations can be tedious, and thus a good monitored use of an LLM.
To address your question about notability, the significant coverage on the cyberattack on the platform in 2024 from reliable, independent sources as outlined in Wikipedia:Notability would, in my view, justify the creation of this article.
Happy editing! Paolo Roland Self (talk) 14:39, 22 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
When you write enough content for Wikipedia, writing citations becomes second nature, it's easy.
The proper way to use AI is to work like a Supreme Court judge, who has assistants to search case histories and write legal briefs, but in the end the judge writes the opinion, not the assistants. In the same way, you can use an AI to find and summarize sources (you must check what it gives you because AIs can also synthesize information that isn't in the sources), but in the end you write the article, not the AI.
The only article I've written using AI is Star of Pure Land. The first thing I did is ask the AI for sources, and it found a bunch. I went through them all with the AI, telling it that certain sources are unreliable, and asked it about others that seemed to be identical. The AI eventually admitted that there were only two sources that were independent of the topic, reliable, gave significant coverage, and not re-publishing of some other source. I wrote the body of the article based on that, and wrote the lead when it was done. Then I asked the AI to suggest what to add using a primary source, and it suggested replacing a paragraph with better details about the gem from that source.
In the end I had a short article with two WP:Golden Rule sources and one primary source. Two good sources are the absolute minimum one should have. There are probably more sources now, but at the time those were the ones available because it was a recent event.
Basically, I used the AI as an assistant or collaborator, but not as an author. This was almost as much work as me writing the article from scratch, but the AI made finding sources more efficient, and its suggestions were useful. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know, thanks for replying 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 05:12, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback! It’s good to know that at least 1 other person believes that my subject has notability that is significant enough to justify a Wikipedia article for it. 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 04:59, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to help! Paolo Roland Self (talk) 17:31, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the notability of the app seems to come from discussion of the cyberattack; so why so much WP:CORPTRIV fluff? You've got a line in the History section which says According to a press release, in August 2020 Mobile Guardian announced a $1 million COVID-19 software grant. This was intended to support K‑12 schools in implementing mobile device management and distance learning during the pandemic. Who cares? I mean that not in a passive-aggressive insulting way, but in a literal way: Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. There's pretty much no reason to include anything the company's own press releases say about them, certainly not something as mundane (and borderline promotional) as them giving a software grant to schools 6 years ago.
In the 'operations' section, you begin with Mobile Guardian has tools that help parents manage... again, this article should not be promoting the company's services to us in any way. Language like This helps administrators to enforce security policies. belongs on the company's website, where they're trying to sell this product to school administrators. If you're going to include information about the app's functionality; that's all we need to know about, the functionality. You don't need to tell us how this would benefit a school administration.
It's generally faux pas to use other articles as an example of what to do, but look at Google Drive#Features for example. At no point does it say something like "Google Drive's cloud functionality helps to increase workplace productivity." It just tells us what it does, not why it does it. Athanelar (talk) 15:21, 22 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I apologise for doing that, I think I was just kind of paraphrasing the promotional info directly from the source. That is my bad, other than all of that unnecessary primary stuff issue, is there any other issue with notability, tone in any other places, any other particular issues with the “Security Incidents” segment? Also thanks for reviewing it, I will try to improve on it 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 23:47, 22 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I made some changes with regards to the problems you addressed. If someone could check out the article now, that’ll be great! 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 05:02, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again,
I think you've properly adressed the issues brought up here. Good work! Paolo Roland Self (talk) 14:35, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 08:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Gileselig, and welcome to the Teahouse.
A look at WP:RSP will tell you that CNA is "a generally reliable source", that Straits Times is generally reliable but with some concerns, and that TechCrunch requires "careful consideration".
But this shows that just mentioning the name of the publication does not tell you whether or not a citation is useful. There's also the consideration of independence, and significant coverage. The most reliable sources in the world sometimes print articles based on press releases (CORPTRIV items are almost of necessity based on press releases), and these are completely worthless for establishing notability.
So if you are going to list your "top three sources" (as editors are often encouraged to do) they need to be three specific cited articles, each of which meets all the criteria in WP:42. ColinFine (talk) 15:50, 22 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for replying!
I see, the reason why I did so, is because I use multiple sources from Straits Times and CNA, so I’m not too sure which one to link. You can check out the article yourself and see for yourself. 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 05:02, 23 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
This is what I believe are the Top 3 sources (Without duplicate websites) (Also I found some new sources, but they are mostly from the same websites, except for Bernama)
  1. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/mobile-guardian-hacking-singapore-cybersecurity-moe-secondary-schools-ipad-4536331
  2. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/moe-to-remove-mobile-guardian-app-from-all-students-devices-after-cybersecurity-breach
  3. https://bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2325735 There are some other independent, reliable sources that I use, I feel like these are the most important ones.
𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 08:23, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Those are good sources for establishing notability for the security breach incident, because that's what the coverage is about. I am not seeing that they establish Mobile Guardian as a notable company that merits an article in its own right. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 13:06, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
So what do you propose? Should I continue writing the article? 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 13:10, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You could recast it to be about the breach. I've done that before. I once wrote a draft about an author of a bestselling book, and a reviewer told me it would be better to write about the book because that's what the sources covered, and he was right. If the company is known primarily for one event, then it's more likely the event is notable. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 14:47, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Alright sure, I’ll try doing that. Do you think I should make it solely about the Aug 2024 incident, or also include all the other relatively minor incidents (which still got some coverage by secondary sources)? Also what should I rename the article’s title to? 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 01:01, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Getting "some coverage" isn't the same as "significant coverage". You could call it "Mobile Guardian security breach" or something similar. However, you could mention those other incidents in a short subsection. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 03:51, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thank you very much for replying! :)))))))) 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 03:55, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi guys, I have just made some major changes to my draft to completely shift the focus of the draft from the company Mobile Guardian, to the cyberattack. However, I am not really finished yet, and I believe more still has to be done. If anyone can provide any feedback or suggestions on what I can do from this point onwards, that would be great. Pls don’t expect it to be good since this is my first article, and therefore my first time doing this kind of thing. Thanks again everyone! 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 13:15, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Also btw, it is still very much in a state of WIP, I believe that there is a need to summarise the “Previous incidents” section, as it is too long for an article which is not focused on them. Also, if anyone would like to suggest some new names for my sections and sub-sections pls don’t hesitate to tell me, ok thx bye 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 14:09, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I just summarised that sub-section, it would be great if someone could give me some feedback on it. 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 06:14, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I think your rewrite looks pretty good. The draft about the security breach reads way better than the earlier draft about the company. @Athanelar Do you agree?
Go ahead and submit it for review. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 06:38, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, will submit rn 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 06:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I have some nitpicks about MOS-type stuff, but I think NEVENT is substantiated for this and so the article should certainly exist at least. I've gone ahead and published it. Athanelar (talk) 10:58, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for reviewing and accepting the article :) 𝕲𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖌™ :) 14:08, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You have accomplished the most difficult task on Wikipedia: writing an acceptable article. Congratulations! I hope you stick around to improve the encyclopedia. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 15:46, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding userboxes

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I don't know if it's possible or not, but what if like someone made an userbox that just says "this person is using a temp account" or along the sorts. Is it even possible to make userboxes, like at all? ~2026-51002-1 (talk) 00:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CREATEUSERBOX 🍅 fx (talk) 00:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
51002,
Well, it'd be possible for the userbox to be created, but usually userboxes are placed on your own user page, and AFAIK TAs generally do not have user pages and aren't able to make them. I might be mistaken, and I couldn't find anything explicitly saying TAs never have user pages, but I've never seen a user page for a TA. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 00:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
TAs can have user pages, it's just a bit pointless since a TA can only be active for up to 90 days. Athanelar (talk) 11:12, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-51002-1 Along with what @Athanelar said, a userbox saying that the user is using a temp account is pointless for another reason--it's clear from seeing the username that it's a temp account. David10244 (talk) 03:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, aside from the technical impracticalities, I think it would actually be sort of cool. I know there's some folks who are regular editors that prefer unregistered editing (that one fellow who frequents the reference desk comes to mind), and if that's a point of pride for someone, then a userbox would be appropriate. Userboxes are for fun; they can be redundant with obvious information. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 04:37, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@MEN KISSING Yes, you are right about that. David10244 (talk) 00:08, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
So basically I'm going to be gone soon? ~2026-51002-1 (talk) 05:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Well, no, you'll just need to either create a new temporary account, or you'll need to register a new account. You'll still be allowed to edit. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 05:08, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-51002-1, @MEN KISSING I presume that 90 days after a temp account is created, and it expires, the new temp account is automatically created, right? I didn't think the user had to proactively do anything when the account "rolls over" to a new one. But I could be wrong. David10244 (talk) 00:11, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Denied from editing Wikipedia as an IP editor.

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Sometimes (especially the last few months), I have been editing Wikipedia to correct minor issues as an IP and then I get something like we have to reject your edit because you're a bot or something and I'm like what the hell. This is really annoying. I have been considering making a permanent account but I have no idea what I'd even name my account. Often when I do it I just write some kind of random username, make the edits I need, and then abandon the account just to get around the "sorry you're an IP" problem. This is frustrating.

I'm really tempted to make a permanent username. Problem is I don't even know what username I'd have. It's a bit overwhelming. ~2026-18429-40 (talk) 19:24, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I have a same problem. They think i am the same person as the other one that got blocked. ~2026-18291-17 (talk) 19:26, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I am not in this situation. I think in my case it's something to do with you cannot make X accounts in Y time or something? ~2026-18429-40 (talk) 19:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the throttle limits mentioned at WP:TA. You may want to hang on to your TAs for longer. The key to holding on to a TA is to not clear the cookie. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:51, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
IP editing was discontinued a few months ago; now we have temporary accounts. Don't worry so much about choosing a permanent username; you can go through the process to change it later. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 19:47, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I mean about temporary accounts. I make an edit and then I get some kind of sorry you're a bot you cannot edit and so I just make an account to get around it and when I'm done, I abandon the account. This is frustrating. ~2026-18429-40 (talk) 19:51, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason you don't want to create a permanent account? 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 19:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Overwhelmed by choosing a username. ~2026-18429-40 (talk) 19:57, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, earlier, you can change it later (I did; my original username was JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333). I think WP:Username policy has some examples of that helps. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 20:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-18429-40 Try using a random word generator on the web? David10244 (talk) 04:47, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How to choose a username?

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Help? I have no idea where to start. ~2026-18429-40 (talk) 19:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to look through several pages of Special:Log/newusers to see what kind of thing inspires other people. Obviously don't pick exactly the same name as someone else, and don't fall foul of the username policy, but there's always some interesting ideas there. It doesn't have to be profound. -- zzuuzz (talk) 20:02, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, 18429!
Any luck so far coming up with a username? MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 02:29, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still thinking. ~2026-18429-40 (talk) 02:37, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-18429-40 Can you post the exact error message you are seeing? Temporary accounts should not be getting called "bots" by the Wikipedia software. Saying the error is "some kind of sorry you're a bot" doesn't really help us help you... David10244 (talk) 04:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
If you still don't have a name picked out, is it alright if I provide some suggestions? MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 05:01, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, thank you. I had to restart my computer for a Windows update and lost my temporary account. ~2026-18627-84 (talk) 18:12, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Here's some ideas, 18627.
I like referring to TAs by the first five digits after the date in their handle. Your current number is 18627.
Converted from decimal to hexadecimal, that's 48c3, which is a good name and probably isn't taken. I like short names a lot, I think they're good.
There's this game I like to play called Caves of Qud, and it has a random name generator for a lot of different sorts of things. On the Caves of Qud wiki, there's a tool you can play around with that generates random names using the game's algorithm. Using 18627 as a seed, a generic creature would be named "Talachar".
I've had a ponder about it, and I've determined that the coolest common word (without being so cool it wraps back around to being edgy) to name yourself is the word "smoke". So that's a good name if you wanna sound cool, but it's probably taken, so you'll have to add your favorite number after it or something. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 01:59, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, my naming scheme was word+number, I got starlet from Barnstars and just slapped 147 onto it. Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 09:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on Draft Expansion of Stub Article

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User:Emanresu0/C.W. Kim Expansion/Condensed

I have inserted the link to an expansion of a few sentence draft article that I have drafted in my userspace. I would appreciate your input, particularly about the following items:

  1. I quoted the language in the references for the articles and referenced them, but I am concerned that the adjectives will be considered "non-neutral". If I remove that language and those references, the subject may seem unimportant.
  2. I included multiple references for the statements in the article because some are now out of business (defunct), as with much of journalism over the past 20 years.
  3. I have done everything to satisfy the wiki commons copyright requirements but still haven't received approval to show the images uploaded for this article on architecture so I revised the text to omit them. The only one that appears now is one for which the 30-day approval has yet to run, so it still appears in the draft. Any help on images is appreciated.
  4. I was going to make a new user page once the article has been commented upon so that all the worthless history of my extensive draft edits don't bog down this article by copy and paste.
  5. After addressing comments, I need help getting it moved from the user page to the mainspace.

Emanresu0 (talk) 00:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Emanresu0, re: #2, are you familiar with the Internet Archive? They probably have copies of the web pages your wish to cite before they became defunct. See the |archive-url= and |archive-date= parameters of most citation templates. Overall, the draft sounds promotional; the last sentence of the lead is a good example. A question: do you know C. W. Kim or have a professional or personal connection with him now or in the past? Mathglot (talk) 01:21, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. My understanding is that I do not have access to the Internet Archive since the wiki news archive access says it requires that I have edited a minimum of 500 wiki articles, which I have not. Please let me know if you have a work-around or whether all I need to do is click on your link notwithstanding what wiki says. I am a novice here. I have had to spend much time searching public library archives, etc.
As for promotional, I specifically asked about the last sentence of the lead, etc, where I quoted the literal language in the referenced citations because the adjectives sound promotional. I asked how should I handle that, but you replied only that it sounds promotional. That is why I asked how to handle those quotes. I would appreciate your suggestions for handling it instead of repeating what I said was my concern.
As for my connection with C.W. Kim, I was aware of him during the 1980's - 2000's because of reading the official San Diego legal and business newspaper (130 years but now defunct) and seeing the downtown developments at the time. This is a period that is difficult to obtain archive material easily because it is not old enough for historical societies and not early enough for the age of digital media. I have always been interested in architecture. In the course of writing the article, I was able to ask the subject for images for the article. It is very difficult communicating with him because he is very old and technologically challenged.
I was hoping to do more articles on San Diego architects, but this experience has me reconsidering. Emanresu0 (talk) 03:20, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Emanresu0, As far as the one sentence, I would just leave it out. I do not know what you mean by wiki news archive access, can you elaborate exactly where you got the decline? You can search Internet Archive without logging in, and without any Wikipedia edits, so the message you described makes no sense to me. Please go here: archive.org and search for whatever you want, and then please tell me if it is refusing your search for any reason. Internet Archive is mostly useful when you know what you are looking for, i.e., the title of a book, the url of a web page, and so on. It generally does not matter if an article is from a defunct source, if it was ever online, the Archive should have it. Alternatively, there are numerous databases of past issues of online and print newspapers, magazines, and academic journals, and public and university libraries almost always have these. If you can describe what you are looking for precisely, I can help you find it, if it is findable. Did you receive photos from Kim? If so, you should upload them to WikiCommons, where almost all Wikipedia media are stored. Mathglot (talk) 05:10, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Images taken or provided by a third party should only be uploaded to Commons if that person is willing and able to comply with the terms described at c:COM:THIRD. (or if some other relevant exemption applies, which won't be the case here). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:46, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Emanresu0.
I suspect you are confusing the Internet Archive (which is an organisation totally unconnected from Wikimedia/Wikipedia) with the Wikipedia Library, which is a facility within Wikipedia which only available to extended confirmed editors. ColinFine (talk) 11:18, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Correct. I did not know they are different. I will follow up with your suggestion. Emanresu0 (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I found the Internet Archive you mentioned, logged in, and tried keyword searches but came up with nothing helpful. For example, when I searched for the 130 year old San Diego business paper that carried all of San Diego's legal notices and is now defunct, I didn't get any actual articles. I only got stats on how many times the name of the newspaper was mentioned someplace and the date, but nothing I could click on to see an article. I've basically had to pay to access old news articles from still existing newspapers or get them from the public library, etc. Many thanks for your suggestion, since it may help in the future. Emanresu0 (talk) 23:33, 26 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Emanresu0, yeah, the Archive is not as good with keyword searches. If you know exactly the item you are looking for (i.e., title, year, author, publisher; or isbn) then it is. Mathglot (talk) 08:00, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Tried that and failed. Another question: Any idea how to get wiki commons to approve the images the copyright owner used the vrt process for to include with this draft article? An article on architecture is pretty dull without good images of the structures. I found images of 3 of them already on wiki commons but the photos are very poor. I am using 2 of them until I can replace them with much better ones that are stuck in wiki commons cyberspace apparently. I very much appreciate your valuable input. Emanresu0 (talk) 20:11, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Help! Would you please look at the draft now since I submitted it for review and approval and got a box that includes a warning about "should be moved to Draft page" essentially. But, it has a caveat I don't understand so I am too afraid to click the link to move it. Can you tell me what to do? Emanresu0 (talk) 21:47, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The original advice you were given was are you familiar with the Internet Archive? They probably have copies of the web pages [you] wish to cite before they became defunct. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:56, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Emanresu0 "...requires that I have edited a minimum of 500 wiki articles, which I have not". For clarification, the requirement is that you have made 500 total edits, not that you have edited 500 separate articles. David10244 (talk) 04:15, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. Emanresu0 (talk) 19:54, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of questions on short descriptions

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Hello! Myself and @Organhaver have been discussing this on my talk page (discussion can be found here), but we were both unsure on the answer, so I thought that it would be a good idea to bring it up here (sorry I know that I have been editing for a while but I didn't know where the best place to bring up this issue would be).

Firstly, I was wondering if there is any way where you can filter short descriptions so that articles such as list articles and year articles are not put there. For context, I was recently (on Tuesday 17th March) banned from editing short descriptions due to me editing these sort of articles, and the fact that several had to be reverted. I edited the articles because I thought that there was a need for more shortdescs on Wikipedia and because I was editing on mobile, I couldn't see the invisible comments (hence why I was editing all of those short descriptions in the first place). But as I mentioned on my talk page, I personally think that you shouldn't have those sort of articles on the suggested edits if they don't need a short description.

Many thanks in advance! Roads4117 (talk) 17:33, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@ColinFine I have fixed the typo! Roads4117 (talk) 18:36, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@ColinFine do you know anywhere where I can raise this issue or is it not possible to? Roads4117 (talk) 13:20, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

And my second question was that I was wondering if anyone knew how long I am going to be banned for? Roads4117 (talk) 17:34, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Roads4117, and welcome to the Teahouse.
I cannot find any evidence that you are subject to a block or a ban. I'm not sure what is going on that you can't edit, but I suspect that you are hitting the throttle, that limits the number of edits in a certain time (I don't know the details).
There seems to be something missing in the first sentence of your second paragraph above (starting "Firstly"). Perhaps you could clarify what you are asking. ColinFine (talk) 17:55, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Well when I click I click on the suggestion edits section on the mobile Wikipedia app, I just get a message saying that Suggested edits is disabled. Sorry Roads4117, too many of your recent contributions have been reverted., and then a link to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Android_Suggested_edits -- Roads4117 (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. That explains why I did not recognise what you were talking about. Suggested Edits is a feature in the Android app only, not in the desktop system: I hardly ever edit in the app.
Clearly the restriction you are hitting is one within that Suggested Edits system (the page you linked to describes "Edit quality", but does not mention any consequence of a pattern of low-quality edits). ColinFine (talk) 22:15, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@ColinFine Suggested Edits is a feature on all mobile versions of Wikipedia. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 22:26, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@ColinFine It might be, but it is now 10 days on from when I first realised about it being disabled and is still the same. Any ideas on how I could fix this? Or much how longer I am banned for? Roads4117 (talk) 13:17, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Roads4117. From the fact that I didn't even know what facility you were talking about, you may guess that I haven't got the slightest idea about how to fix your situation. You are not banned from editing Wikipedia - you appear to be subject to a restriction on the Wikipedia app, which is a different thing, and I know nothing about it. I suggest asking either at the talk page of the mediawiki page you linked to, or at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thank you for your help :-) Roads4117 (talk) 10:00, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How are you so left leaning

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Just looking up commonly known information. American Left and American Right were the search terms. The difference in the pages is absolutely unforgivable and I can not in all good conscience fund to you, with such great discrepancies in such important information. I am politically neutral, and do not care about your leanings. What I do care about is purety of information, and your feelings are in the way. ~2026-19084-85 (talk) 03:39, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We do not have an opinion on anything; we record what the preponderance of reliable sources have written about any given topic, as determined by reasoning and consensus. You can read more about our neutrality policy if you wish.
As for 'funding' us, keep your money, the Wikimedia Foundation has plenty. We'll be just fine without you. Athanelar (talk) 04:05, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia focuses on publishing what is documented by reliable sources. We keep a neutral point of view, but when reliable sources favor one viewpoint over another, we do not give undue weight to the less favored viewpoint.
There are many people who find the ultimate result of this philosophy to be left leaning in the lense of American politics. That is not a cause for concern for us. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 04:48, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't someone once say "the truth is progressive"? David10244 (talk) 05:34, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
"Reality has a well known liberal bias" 🍅 fx (talk) 09:42, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: As a global project, Wikpedia is ultimately subject to ideological bias, but the Wikipedian does have sustained efforts to try and minimize such biases (yes even against left-wing sources). ~2026-18951-09 (talk) 06:20, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
~2026-18951-09, because of your concern about this issue, why don’t you turn that energy into a search for more of what Wikipedia considers good resources to round out those currently used about the American Right? That could be very helpful. Augnablik (talk) 08:05, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
"The difference in the pages is absolutely unforgivable". Indeed it is. You need to take that up with its root cause - American politicians and voters. When they begin to behave in a more sane and legal manner, our coverage of them we reflect that Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:01, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reality has a liberal bias. If you only want to read what you want to hear, this isn't the place for you. No one is truly "politically neutral", people just have varying degrees of how strongly they want to pick a side on an issue or generally. 331dot (talk) 09:06, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Reality is, inherently, liberal, because Conservatives generally have a harder time questioning authority, and have a much harder time dealing with things that are hard to hear. Of course, I am liberal myself, so this is just my own experience. --DollarStoreBa'alConverse 14:51, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia sources from reliable sources if your viewpoints are not found to be as prevent in these reliable sources then that may say more about the those viewpoints than it does of Wikipedia. Pyrrhic victor (talk) 18:30, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There is no way to be exactly politically neutral as a belief -- if that means being between conceptions of two opposing sides, that is an expression of the beliefs of opposing sides -- if that means to just ignore stuff that seem biased, that is based off one's own bias and Overton Window. Wikipedia realizes that and so does not strive for a false balance, we instead strive to achieve a more achievable goal of simply reflecting the conclusions -- and yes, even the biases -- of mainstream media and scholarship. As a socialist, sometimes I do wish that Wikipedia covered matters to reflect my own biases and values, but instead I realize that it wouldn't be practical for any encyclopedia to fight for any one bias -- even a centrist bias, for example -- as then it becomes simply a reflection of one view and loses mainstream attention and relevance. Simply reflecting mainstream views and biases rather than pursuing any specific ideology is the lesser evil, and actually shows and informs much more about the world around us through its reflection of biases then any artificial effort towards the pursuing of a non-liberal "neutrality". 💫ΩmegaMantis💫(he/him) ❦blather | ☞spy on me 22:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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LLM Translation and app users

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I have been trying to understand why app users see a different set of translation rules than everyone else. For reference, the basic rules for LLM translation are available here; they include mention of having to speak the original language and access sources. However, as someone who reads in the app, I regularly see the templates for expanding articles which requires neither. These templates are extremely prominent in the articles they appear in, as they are unfolded by default. I have asked about this in a couple places more relevant to LLM issues, but have been unable to get a response. ExtantRotations (talk) 14:14, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@ExtantRotations see where ? please be specific. give article examples, so people can go look in the app and see what you see. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 14:28, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, apologies, it can be seen on the page Equation which uses the French template. I am using the iOS version of the app by the way. ExtantRotations (talk) 14:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I should also mention that these templates seem to have been adjusted in mobile view to no longer display the outdated rules by removing anything after “see more”. This prob didn’t work for the app because there is no option to fold up notice templates; they are always shown in full. ExtantRotations (talk) 14:34, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Added it! See {{Expand French}} for an example of what it looks like now! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:13, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

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Should I use two citations to support a reference if both support it but only one is available online and the other is not, but in print Acedog1514 (talk) 18:23, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Offline citations are fine to use. Athanelar (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Should I use both or just one? Acedog1514 (talk) 18:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
+1 on that. @Acedog1514 You can also cite both of them but make sure the online source is independent per WP:IS. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 18:42, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you both! Acedog1514 (talk) 18:49, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The requirement for independence (when it is required; which is not always the case) is no different for online, than for offline sources. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:33, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Acedog1514 I often use both. My reasoning is that someone may later notice a useful snippet that's in one of the sources but not the other and decide to include it in the article. Wikipedia relies on good but sometimes hard-to-find sources and if you have found two, why not put them in? Just avoid repetition and WP:CITEBOMBing. Another consideration is whether one of the sources is WP:primary and the other WP:secondary. If so, we usually prefer the latter. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Using "social entrepreneur" as a disambiguation tag in WP bio articles?

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In cases where there exist biographical articles about more than one person with a particular name, a parenthetical qualifier is frequently used in Wikipedia for disambiguation. This is a 'tag' indicating a profession, or something the individual is noted for.

If social entrepreneur would be a comprehensive term for someone's work, especially as befits their many and varied specific roles, is it an acceptable career designation?

In doing some online searching about social entrepreneurship as a professional field, I found that Pepperdine University, for instance, states that successful careers in this direction are possible, and "could be anything from alleviating poverty to advocating for environmental sustainability."Joel Russ (talk) 19:34, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

For which person? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a typical corporate nothingspeak kind of title for me. I'd rather go with something actually descriptive, like philanthropist. Athanelar (talk) 20:20, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Athanelar, some web-based encyclopedia tells us that The dynamic nature of [social entrepreneurship] and the multiplicity of the conceptual lenses used by researchers has made it impossible to capture it, to such an extent that scholars have compared it with a mythological beast. So perhaps we just need a trip to the opticians, and a request for these remarkable-sounding lenses. -- Hoary (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. Joel Russ (talk) 12:35, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What is the section for article alerts

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On a project page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Travel and Tourism there is section towards the end where it has a block of other links under Article Alerts. Can someone shed some light on what is that used for? When I went on one of the link Terra Nova Expeditions, it has a notice at the top. Does this mean this page will get deleted? NicoR8 (talk) 20:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"Article alerts", NicoR8, are links to articles (and categories and drafts) being discussed (or likely to be discussed) for this or that reason. At the top of Terra Nova Expeditions, we are told that "An editor has nominated this article for deletion", and that "You are welcome to participate in the deletion discussion, which will decide whether to keep it". This comes with links to both deletion policy (which should be cited by participants) and the deletion discussion. Whether the article is deleted will depend on how the discussion goes. -- Hoary (talk) 22:05, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Looking to create a page and add my owned photos that I took to another one

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Hi!! My father already has a wiki page (Andy McCann) and I was wondering how I would add photos that I took at the brier this year on my camera to his profile as well as make two new profiles for the two players on his team that don’t have their own yet. If there is a verification process to go through before publishing a full article no worries, just wondering how I’d also go about that. If anyone could help me out with some insight here it would be greatly appreciated!

Ps. I am brand new to this, so please bear with me. Any abbreviations or slang that is popular amongst the experienced here probably won’t be understood by me either Lol.

all the best, Kohen Kohenmccann5 (talk) 22:36, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, Wikipedia doesn't host 'profiles' of anybody in the social media sense, if you want to make articles about the two other people on the team, they will need to meet our criteria for inclusion; namely, they need to meet our special definition of a notable person.
As for adding a photo Andy McCann, see the Image use policy. Athanelar (talk) 23:53, 27 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Right on then, fair enough. Thank you kindly for your help!! Kohenmccann5 (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Please bear in mind our COI policy when it comes to editing Wikipedia's profile of your father, or writing about his colleagues. You may do the latter through our afc process, once your CoI is declared.
You may also find WP:About you useful reading. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:28, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Kohenmccann5 Thanks for wanting to contribute photos of your father. As you took them on your own camera, you own the copyright but can use a creative commons license when uploading them. The .jpg files go onto our sister project, Wikimedia Commons, so they can be used in other-language versions of articles. Start at the Commons:Special:UploadWizard and follow the instructions. Use obvious filenames, not IMG12345.jpg which the camera might use and fill in details like where and when taken. In view of your conflict of interest you would be best to subsequently suggest someone insert one of your photos into the WP:Infobox of the Andy McCann article by posting at Talk:Andy McCann but it is unlikely anyone would object if you just followed the instructions at Help:Pictures to do so yourself. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:05, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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There is a wikipedia stub link for me under this page List of presidents of the American Psychiatric Association the specific link is here - Paul Summergrad Can someone assist in creating this - i have a lot of the background material organized in wikipedia format but it would be unethical for me to submit this myself - Paulsumm (talk) 03:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Paulsumm, (i) no article titled Paul Summergrad exists and none has ever existed; (ii) please read and digest "Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing". -- Hoary (talk) 04:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You are of course right - I meant a red link but misremembered the term. Will read the article you posted thank you for your assistance Paulsumm (talk) 03:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Paulsumm,
To clarify, what you've encountered is known as a "red link", not a stub.
I'm glad you recognize that submitting an article about yourself isn't a good idea. Indeed it is not, as outlined at the link WP:AUTOBIO. However, as a former president of a major academic institution, you likely satisfy our notability standards for academics, meaning an article about you is certainly warranted.
I'm sure the folks over at WikiProject Biography/Science and academia would be happy to help you out. They have a talk page here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography/Science_and_academia where you could request creation of the article be put on their to-do list. The best way to help them create the article would be to provide a set of resources the article can use as citations. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 04:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I placed a request on the WikiProject Biography/Science page that you linked. As I mentioned there I have a list of externally referenced materials about aspects of my career from public sources as well as other material I could provide. I didnt post it at this juncture as I felt that would be inappropriate at this juncture. If you think I should or if you have additional suggestions I would appreciate it. Paulsumm (talk) 03:25, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Paulsumm, please be mindful that now that you've expressed interest in having a Wikipedia article about yourself, you may be contacted by someone claiming to be affiliated with Wikipedia or with some kind of Wikipedia editing agency offering you professional editing services in exchange for payment. These offers are scams, and should be dealt with as per the instructions at WP:SCAM. Athanelar (talk) 11:11, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - I have already been on the receiving end of some of these and will be on the lookout. I really dont want to violate any of the Wikipedia standards as I greatly appreciate it as a highly valuable source and enterprise. Paulsumm (talk) 03:27, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Once an artile is created (or even before, in some respects) WP:About you may be helpful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:21, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the direction to the article. I also reponded directly to your Talk to Andy link Paulsumm (talk) 03:36, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How do I list out triple nationalities?

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Courtesy article: Sophie Lavaud. She was born in Switzerland to French-Canadian parents, but I don't know whether I should label her as Swiss-French-Canadian or French-Canadian-Swiss -.- LS8 (talk) 04:38, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any sources saying how she identifies herself?
To use myself as an example, the nationalities of my own parents aren't really relevant to my identity; one parent was German, the other was Croatian, but they became US citizens and I was born in the United States. I consider myself a first-generation American with European parents. If there were ever to be a Wikipedia article about me (God forbid), I'd want it to say how I view myself, not that I am a some permutation of "American-German-Croatian"; that would be stupid.
So I'd label her as Swiss and say in the article that her parents are French-Canadian. The lead section of the article does it well, so I'd leave it as it is now. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 06:45, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Is she really a citizen of all 3 countries? Some guidance at MOS:NATIONALITY, assuming you're thinking of the WP:LEAD. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:05, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Switzerland has jus sanguinis laws, so it's somewhat likely that her Swiss citizenship comes from her parents also, but I'll contact her personally to see if there are any results. ^^ LS8 (talk) 07:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång She identifies as all three (https://www.sophielavaud.com/a-propos)
Chiffres clés de mon histoire
3 nationalités: suissesse, française, canadienne
5 documentaires & films ainsi que 2 livres publiés
200+ conférences données en entreprise LS8 (talk) 07:25, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

New page reviewer

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Hello TH, I was granted NPR permission a few days ago but I'm unable to see the menu of tools a reviewer gets on the side when performing tasks related to this process. I have reviewed perhaps 2 pages since I got the permission but I'm no longer able to see it. My user contributions indicate my permission is intact but I cannot engage with it at all. Please help. signed, Kvinnen (talk) 06:11, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Additional information: However, I see the button that says "Mark this page as patrolled". Just not the rest of the menu. signed, Kvinnen (talk) 06:13, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Kvinnen Have you installed Page Curation? LS8 (talk) 06:28, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I just installed it. signed, Kvinnen (talk) 06:33, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Kvinnen, there should be a button labelled "Open Page Curation", "Curation Toolbar" or 'Curate this article' in one of the sidebars (usually under "Tools"). nil nz 06:34, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it takes me here. However, my original problem persists. signed, Kvinnen (talk) 06:53, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, now I see it. Thank you very much, I can now access the menu. signed, Kvinnen (talk) 06:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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How do I delete or alarm to delete a page?

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I published a page with a wrong namespace in non-english wikipedia. It is not as developed there as here, it might take long for someone to notice and take it down. What template should i use? ChocolateLemon (talk) 07:15, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If it's in the wrong namespace, are you able to move the page to the correct namespace yourself? nil nz 07:25, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I have already created a page with the correct namespace, now I can't move it myself ChocolateLemon (talk) 08:17, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
At WP:CSD, in the top right corner, it says the page is available in 100 languages – if that includes the language wiki you made the page on, it should tell you how to tag the page for deletion. nil nz 08:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Though it doesn't look like there's a speedy delete page for Mongolian (which I assume is the language project you're asking about?).
There may be other options listed at mn:Википедиа:Хуудас устгахтай холбоотой баримтлах бодлого instead? nil nz 08:46, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I've tagged the pages after deleting everything in it. Thank you ChocolateLemon (talk) 09:51, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

unrelated :if fitgirl-repacks.site is safest?

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


i downloaded reanimal on fitgirl then it required torrent like qbittorent, i downloaded qbittorent and play reanimal like normal. the next day, i got hacked, which cracked games site is safest? i came here because a user named Snowman304 said i could post in heregay_wibu (talk) 07:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Namnuquantronggi Hello,
This isn't the place to ask this question either. You could try the reference desk, but I'm afraid you're unlikely to get an answer to this specific question there. You could always try elsewhere on the internet besides Wikipedia.
Best of luck! MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 08:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Given our policy forbids linking to websites hosting copyright violatations, no one on Wikipedia will help you find cracked games. If you instead have questions about Wikipedia itself, you're welcome to ask them here. nil nz 10:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Write a document

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Hello! I recently started editing Wikipedia again and am almost finished with the Korea Cup (horse racing) article. I would really appreciate it if you could read and evaluate the document, and also answer my question below. Here is my question: Is it okay to cite YouTube videos as sources? Most of the source videos are from the official channels of the Korea Racing Authority (KRA) or the Emirates Racing Authority (ERA), so I have added them as references for now, but I'm not entirely sure.

Thank you to everyone reading this, and I hope you all have a great day! :D

(The content of the document may not be smooth because it was written by a Korean whose native language is not English. / The current article grade is Start-class.) Coperacchio (talk) 10:12, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

regarding Youtube as a source, WP:RSPYT has relevant guidance. Athanelar (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I looked it up and it seems possible. Thank you for the answer. Coperacchio (talk) 11:12, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

backward referencing

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Is there any policy on this? I cant find one, please it would be helpful if anyone direct me. Dead astrologer (talk) 10:36, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "backward referencing"? Athanelar (talk) 11:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
What? It means writing article and then adding sources by searching for them deliberately. I thought this was a common term. Dead astrologer (talk) 11:05, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BACKWARDS is probably what you're looking for nil nz 11:11, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, backwards referencing is one of our jargon terms. While we don't have a policy on it, but we do have an essay located at Wikipedia:BACKWARDS. Mikeycdiamond (talk) 11:11, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
We call that "writing an article backwards," not "backward referencing"; but yes, the relevant information is at the link the other two have given. Athanelar (talk) 11:13, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Dead astrologer The policy is WP:Verifiability. You seem to be in a content dispute with User:Hmm123india regarding Begampur, India and should take that to the talk page of the article and follow our WP:dispute resolution processes. I note that some WP:COPYVIO and WP:NEWLLM may be involved but I don't have time to get into that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:32, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such policy. While it is possible to write an article that way, and end up with something that is properly sourced, it is a particularly inefficient way to proceed, and is more likely to result in an article with unsourced or improperly sourced statements, which either get removed from the article, or cause it to be deleted (or, if a draft, declined).
The relevant policies are WP:N and WP:V, supported by the guideline WP:RS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:36, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Astronomer is deleting all content when he finds anything unrefenceed, or when he deletes references so it becomes unreferenced and then he deletes all content, instead of placing [citation needed] where it is needed (not everywhere, but where needed). --~2026-18843-54 (talk) 12:26, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Your dispute with User:Dead astrologer (not "Astronomer") appears to be on Gaheris. See advice above regarding WP:dispute resolution.
I do take issue with User:Dead astrologer's claim (in an edit summary) that "Britannica is not allowed as citing article inside Wikipedia", which is contrary to WP:BRITANNICA. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:55, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for that. I was focused into removing their deprecated sources. WP:BRITANNICA does say we can allow it as source for citation if they are written by subject matter expert, so my apologies. Dead astrologer (talk) 13:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
If a fact has been added and referenced with what is judged to be an inadequately reliable source, a better course than swift deletion is first to look for a better source. That way a positive rather than a negative contribution may be made to the article, and fellow editors are being collaborated with rather than combatted.
On the other hand, it is unwise to add significant unreferenced content and only then to seek to add references, whether they are already to hand or need to be searched for. This can lead to unreferenced material remaining on a page for an extended period, or even (by oversight) permanently. It would be better to put the new material in a sandbox, find and add reliable sources to it, and only then put it into the article. There is no deadline. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 16:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
For your first point, maybe or maybe not. It depends. If you cannot find sources for your claims, and even if you do they are just dead links or unreliable, that means you are not writing an article, you are just trying to prove your claim with some tricks. If you are on Wikipedia for a longer time, you will see people doing this often. It is an all right method, but I believe that this is a form of writing that degrades article quality. People tend to write out of their memory or use LLMs, then somehow spend their time finding a specific word or sentence that is equal to the claim and then cite it. Sometimes that same source does not make sense with the context, or sometimes the whole source is just a blog or manipulated content. The best method before writing your article is to be honest with yourself and do thorough research as much as possible with mostly high-quality sources. This ensures that when you write an article, it uses high-quality prose and is reliable enough to be tested again. Also, I do not have a personal problem (just in case) with you or anyone; all I want is good quality of information because I use Wiki in my personal life way more than I edit. Dead astrologer (talk) 03:04, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Also your deadline stuff don't make your sense here. The "no deadline" is for sandbox article, which you are editing alone, while you are actively referencing or editing downgraded quality prose on public facing articles. At some instance somebody will read your unreliable prose and going to believe its true. So it was not a good excuse on your side. Dead astrologer (talk) 03:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to have confused me with the editor you have been in disagreement with on the article. I was offering general advice to both parties, and not laying down ironclad rules.
My first point was given with you in mind, Dead astrologer, to suggest that you should first check for better sources before deleting something with what you think is a poor one. I was not suggesting that the material should be kept if no better sources are found. I have seen a Guideline regarding this, but I cannot remember what the link is.
My second point was given with 2026-18843-54 in mind, suggesting that, indeed, they should properly source new material in a sandbox or other draft space before adding it to the article. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 11:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
sorry. But I am mostly a copy editor or I check citations, so I leave the work of finding citation on others. Source will always be there and you could once again write stuffs I deleted but with better sources or it will be deleted nonetheless. The "guideline" you must be thinking of is WP:V. Dead astrologer (take to me) 11:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Dead astrologer Adding a [citation needed] tag is a better idea than deleting the unreferenced info. Then, someone else may come along and find a citation. However, that doesn't always happen. David10244 (talk) 00:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
That guideline sounds like WP:BEFORE? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I dont think he is talking about deleting article, maybe he is asking specifically for citation related guidelines. Dead astrologer (talk) 11:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Table Formatting Glitch

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Hello! I've been working on some tables recently, but on some sections, enters have not been showing up after I add them in the edits. When checking the (visual) editor, I see a left arrow (shaped like the enter symbol) but no line break. Why does this happen and how can I prevent it?

Thanks,

WalnutBloom (talk) 11:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WalnutBloom. A single newline doesn't cause a line break in the rendered text. That's just how our MediaWiki software works, also outside tables. If you want a line break to appear then you have to do something else. Make an empty line to start a new paragraph. This gives more than normal linespacing before it. You can write <br> to start a new line without a new paragraph but we rarely do that. See more at Help:Line-break handling. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Dormant article

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 Courtesy link: Wikipedia:News sources

Whilst searching for a list of reputable News outlets, I came across an article that has not been meaningfully updated since 2005 (approximately). I wrote Elvis has left the building on the Talk page. Is there more I should have added to identify the article as less than current? WendlingCrusader (talk) 11:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@WendlingCrusader You can use the template {{update}} on the article itself. Not all articles need updating and the template allows for a reason to be given. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:News sources is not an article. It is an internal guidance page, to help Wikipedia editors. It is in the "Wikipedia namespace" (i.e. the name is prefixed with Wikipedia:, which distinguishes it from encyclopedia articles.
The reason it hasn't been updated is that it is simply a list of regional pages. It is the latter which get updated as required (the "Europe" page, for example, was last updated as recently as 29 December 2025). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:02, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Pigsonthewing Thanks for straightening me out, and converting my clumsy edits into something more structured. I see where I went wrong, and now I've taken a better look I can even find (updated) entries for the United Kingdom, hiding behind the very missable "UK". Will I cause huge disruption if I expand the section title to read "United Kingdom" in full, or do I just need a new prescription from Specsavers? WendlingCrusader (talk) 12:25, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
No; go ahead. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:48, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Citing Britannica?

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Hiya! I'm trying to add sources to an article, and I was wondering if Britannica was alright to cite as a source. I realise that citing an encyclopaedia on an encyclopaedia might not be wise, hence the ask. Thanks, and sorry if this is a silly question! :) PlanetaryLuna :) (talk) 16:25, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Not a silly question at all: it's hardly intuitive. See WP:BRITANNICA(!) and adjacent sources in that Project page table. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
PlanetaryLuna, depending which version you cite (online; or print—which one?) there are some templates that may make it a lot easier. For example, template {{Cite EB15}} makes it easy to cite the 15th edition (covering print years 1974–2012). Template {{EB1911}} makes it easy to cite the 11th edition (from 1911) which is still suitable for some things, and has the advantage that it is now in the public domain, meaning you can copy text word for word without worrying about copyright infringement. You can find examples of articles that cite the 1911 edition here. Mathglot (talk) 08:29, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

publishing from the draft page

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i need help publishing the article on ABSENT FINDINGS that is in the draft mode Raviwrites1969 (talk) 16:46, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted it as AI generated. The decline message was added by the AI. Please see WP:NEWLLM; you may use the Article Wizard to create a draft, but you need to do the work yourself. 331dot (talk) 16:50, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot There us still a draft at Draft:Absent Findings, did you mean to leave that? David10244 (talk) 00:46, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It was recreated. 331dot (talk) 00:56, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Converting pre-decimalisation UK currency

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Link: Lomer (village)

Hello! I'd like to represent the pre-decimalisation currency in the article linked above in a friendlier format. As the only record of the village's depopulation, they're key to understanding the article. There is a conversion template (Template:UK decimalisation) but I have no idea what year the conversion is to or from—the result is meaningless without taking inflation into account. What's the best way to represent these tax payments that will illustrate the point to a modern reader?

Thank you! Gladdening (talk) 17:22, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Gladdening there is a template {{Inflation/UK}} and you can look at its documentation for details. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:30, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Turnbull, thank you for your reply. I may be misunderstanding but the link you provided is the underlying function of Template:Inflation, which I went ahead and used instead. For 8s 10d in 1489 it produces £404 in 2023, which seems unusually low to me as the tax for a village of >50 inhabitants, but I may be mistaken. Could somebody give me a sense check please? Gladdening (talk) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the underlying template is the inflation one. Your answer is correct based on the template and we'll have to await an expert to say whether this looks realistic! Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I used the Bank of England's shillings to pounds converter which converts 8s 10d to £0.44 in decimal currency, and then I used their inflation calculator which calculates that £0.44 in 1489 would be £428.24 today; so the template's result is off, but not by much. Athanelar (talk) 18:22, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help, @Mike Turnbull and @Athanelar! I'll go ahead and add the conversions to the article. Gladdening (talk) 18:25, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Gladdening: this is a good illustration of the issue with the {{inflation}} template: once you go back more than a few centuries, it rapidly becomes meaningless. The calculation the template is applying will be correct for whatever measure of inflation it is using (well, accepting the inevitable imprecisions due to medieval price data being much less systematic than today!), but simply applying inflation like that gets you unhelpful results.
To illustrate: an unskilled labourer in the fifteenth century might earn, say, £5 per year (this is a ballpark figure based off of the first reasonably plausible number I saw while googling; it doesn't have to be precisely accurate to make the point). That's a little under ten times your 8s/10d figure, so say it's the equivalent of £4,000 today. But an unskilled English labourer today does not earn £4000 pa, or even close to it; even working 35 hours per week they'll be making over £20,000 per annum pre-tax – and spending more than our 15th-century labourer's £4000 per year on housing alone. And quite possibly on food as well. On the other hand, our 15th-century labourer is spending a much higher proportion of his income on essentials to life; he doesn't have the equivalent of a phone contract, or a car to maintain, which even most minimum-wage earners in the UK today will be committed to, nor does he have anything close to the variety of discretionary spending available to him that we do today.
All this is to say: in history-related articles like this, it's worth considering whether the inflation-equivalent provided by the template really is helping the reader, or if it's misleading them. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 21:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Caeciliusinhorto, thanks for your input. What the conversions are demonstrating in this article is not monetary value, but proportion. Tax rolls are the only evidence of the village's decline in population, but the source doesn't offer exactly how many people fewer there were; it's up to the reader to interpret these figures themself, and £404 of £928 is easier to interpret than 8s 10d of 20s 2d. If you have a better way to make these figures clear without tipping into WP:SYNTH, I welcome you to amend the article. Thanks, Gladdening (talk) 09:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

wiki page for myself

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I've just corrected a page written for me by the software AI engineer Devin. How can I determine if it fits the requirements for publication? It's located in my sandbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hbreiter123/sandbox Hbreiter123 (talk) 18:22, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hbreiter123, and welcome to the Teahouse. Possibly you do. The requirements to have an article about a professor are given in Wikipedia:Notability (academics). They rely on showing impact on one's field of study and it has been hard for those whose contributions have been in teaching in one's field to find evidence to support that. You were awrded the Paul Erdős Award in 2002 which awards having "played a significant role in the development of mathematical challenges at the national or international level and which have been a stimulus for the enrichment of mathematics learning." There may also be reviews of your books in the mathematics teaching literature.
The second issue is whether the article is ready to be in Wikipedia. There are no inline citations, which are needed to support everything in the article. The tone of the article is of a university web page, emphasizing wonderfulness, rather than a neutral encyclopedia article. And before proceeding it is helpful to read Wikipedia:Autobiographies. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:07, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Hbreiter123 In addition to all of this, be aware of the fact that we do not allow AI generated content, so if by the "software AI engineer Devin" you mean some kind of AI agent, this is not permitted.
As for general guidance, see Help:Your first article. Athanelar (talk) 20:53, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Hbreiter123
Looking at your sandbox, it seems you copied it from some former or older existing WP-Page "Harold Reiter", categories and all, "Last editet ~2024". So, where did you copy it from? (Maybe admins could locate this "old" article)? Maresa63 Talk 04:15, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Noteslist template

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Hi, I'm trying to create a second noteslist (with the same content) further down an article, without having to move the template to the very bottom. I've tried adding name and group (probably wrongly) and it will not display. I hope you can understand my explanation. Thanks, Fort esc (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Fort esc. The named efn reference got "captured" by the {{notelist}} higher up in the article. The parser will only look for references defined below that notelist when you try to use it again. That's what lets there be more than one reflist or notelist in an article and not get confused. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:15, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Fort esc, agree with StarryGrandma. I have to ask, though: what is the article, and why would you want a duplicate reflist? There is a way to do this, but I can't think of a reason one would ever want to. Mathglot (talk) 01:18, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Mathglot: This would've been for each British series of Gladiators. Fort esc (talk) 11:09, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It would be the notes from the "Contenders" section being reused in the Episodes subsection "Contenders progress" on each series' article. Hope that helps, Fort esc (talk) 17:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Fort esc, it seems you want three things, which may be in conflict with each other. Correct me if I am wrong, but you would like to have:
  1. two (or more) notes with identical text in different sections
  2. only write out the full text of a given note in one place on the page; other equivalent ones link to it somehow
  3. resolve the notes within each section, so that the explanations for a, b, c, and so on appear after the table.
First of all, is that an accurate reading of what you are asking?
If so, it is #3 that doesn't play well with the others, as StarryGrandma explained. If you want just 1 & 2, you can use named notes or list-defined notes. Just 1 & 3: write out the text twice. Just 2 & 3, some tricky-ass stuff involving transclusion that would make other editors tear their hair out and probably get you reverted with dirty looks; ditto for all three.
Practically speaking, your best approach given mediawiki restrictions is drop #2 or #3; i.e., either duplicate the note text, or just resolve everything in a single notes section in one reference section at the bottom of the page, as the MOS:Layout guideline recommends. Mathglot (talk) 19:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Fort esc (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Gender ID for Yoshiko Kawashima

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Hey I've been editing the page on Yoshiko Kawashima for a bit and am not really sure what to do since it's just been back and forth on Kawashima's pronouns. I do believe that as per MOS:GENDERID Kawashima should be referred to with masc pronouns since what I believe to be their most recent self-id (published in the Asahi Shinbun articles Tokyo morning edition 27th November 1925 and Tokyo evening edition 29th November 1925) asserts masc self-id. However it is also true that an overwhelming majority of sources refer to Kawashima with fem pronouns and Kawashima appears to have had little consistency in gender presentation. I would appreciate any assistance in resolving this dispute.

I do have access to the articles I mentioned if any would be willing to make a full translation. Blobhaj (talk) 22:35, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Blobhaj, how in a century-old Japanese-language newspaper would somebody have asserted masculine or feminine self-id? (I can hardly believe that it would have been by commenting on the use of this or that pronominal.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
According to the translation provided in book ‘Manchu Princess, Japanese Spy,’ by Phyllis Birnbaum, a translated title of the first articles is "Kawashima Yoshiko's Beautiful Black Hair Completely Cut Off - Because of Unfounded 'Rumors,' Makes Firm Decision to Become a Man - Touching Secret Tale of Her Shooting Herself"
Since Birnbaum neglects to provide a full translation of the aforementioned articles, I have below pasted 3 paragraphs from the book to include her commentary on the articles.
Blobhaj (talk) 23:54, 28 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"Publish changes" button not working

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For the past day, when I make an edit to a page, then click on the blue "Publish changes" button, nothing happens, and the edit is not saved. I tried two different browsers with the same result. Will this bug be fixed soon? ~2026-12086-96 (talk) 01:40, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Which page? Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 01:41, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
This is in response to the query just above from User:Starlet! It happens with every page, including this one. I am able to successfully click "Add topic" (and this button works), but, for the past day, "Publish changes" does not. That is why I was not able to add this response to User:Starlet! under the previous heading. ~2026-12086-96 (talk) 01:51, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-12086-96: We have thousands of edits every hour and I haven't seen other reports of this so it sounds specific to you or rare circumstances. Do you have any anti-malware which might interfere with both browsers? Can you try another computer or device? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:46, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I was prepared to tell you about protected pages, but if it’s every page, then I have no clue. (Also I am user starlet147, but my signature says starlet) Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 13:46, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, everyone. The "Publish changes" button works for me again today. ~2026-12086-96 (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Request page for Prof. M. Tanveer, IIT Indore

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I have a draft biography of Prof. M. Tanveer (IIT Indore, link - https://mtanveer.profiles.iiti.ac.in) and would like an independent editor to review and help submit it. ~2026-19432-32 (talk) 04:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You might wanna visit WP:AFC, where you can submit a draft and have someone review it. Jacksonvil (talk|contribs) 04:18, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
No independent editor is likely to create an article on demand. (However, some scammer or incompetent might promise to do so.) Read WP:GNG and WP:PROF and ensure that M. Tanveer satisfies either the one or the other. (He doesn't need to satisfy both.) If so, you can embark on the task in Draft:M. Tanveer. (It's not going to be easy.) But are you perhaps related to M. Tanveer in some way? -- Hoary (talk) 04:45, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

LLM usage

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Should suspected LLM usage be reverted? I can't 100% tell, in this case should it still be reverted? (The information is very slightly biased, see link) Jacksonvil (talk|contribs) 04:16, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That particular edit was completely unsourced so could be reverted for that reason, whether or not it was LLM-generated. I see @CoffeeCrumbs already reverted it for that reason. I agree it's likely AI slop as well. Lijil (talk) 10:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

My wiki account appears to be reset?

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Hello, when I logged in today, it looks like my account has been reset somehow. All my previous edits are gone as well as messages I've exchanged with other editors. Did I do something wrong? CanelaQuill (talk) 04:57, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@CanelaQuill From where I'm sitting, User talk:CanelaQuill has several messages and [2] seems fine too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! Now it's back to normal. I panicked there for a moment. Thanks for confirming all is well. CanelaQuill (talk) 05:19, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting to edit Manuel Benedito page

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Hello, I'm requesting to edit this page to add a gallery section, but it says it is not a protected page and I should be able to edit it myself. But when trying to edit it, it says I can't. How should I proceed? Thank you for your help Artful Historian (talk) 08:41, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Artful Historian If I'm reading [3] correctly, it seems @Asilvering has blocked you from editing any WP-articles at all, so I'm guessing that's it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:54, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You're currently blocked from the article space, so you're expected to make edit requests on talk pages. You can use the {{edit partially-blocked}} template to do this. I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 08:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks I'll look into it Artful Historian (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Why am I not autoconfirmed?

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Hello everyone, I've been a Wikipedia editor for 4 days now, and I have 30-ish edits. Anything I'm misunderstanding about the process?

- Powerplay11 (talk) 14:00, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

As long as it's been a full four days(96 hours) you should be. What makes you think you aren't? 331dot (talk) 14:06, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
According to Xtools, you are already an autoconfirmed user. Jolly1253 (talk) 14:08, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You are part of the autoconfirmed users group so you are autoconfirmed. Pyrrhic victor (talk) 16:06, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add Japanese language version of article

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Hello there. Is it possible that someone could add a translated Japanese version of this page please?: Carl Randall. The content is relevant to Japan. Thank you very much for your assistance, hope someone can help! Kabuki-obake (talk) 17:01, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kabuki-obake. Please read WP:TRANSLATEUS for guidance on how to translate an English Wikipedia article into another language. Cullen328 (talk) 17:13, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Kabuki-obake, you may be able to find an editor with the skills and interest at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan. Cullen328 (talk) 17:38, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
thank you Kabuki-obake (talk) 18:28, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Mentor Away Templates

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Hi. I'd like to put "mentor away" templates on my talk page, because I'm going away on Wednesday. Thank you for your time.   ~ polski chomik (chat)  17:59, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@PolishHamster, the correct procedure is to mark yourself away on the Mentor Dashboard, which will pause the assignment of new mentees to you. I don't believe there is a specific "mentor away" template but you can place a wikibreak notice with one of the {{Wikibreak templates}}. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 20:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Eligibility Question

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Hello,

I am trying to determine whether Nigerian playwright Toyin Abiodun is likely to meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines before attempting a draft.

He is a Nigerian playwright, author, producer, actor, director, and scholar with multiple published plays, including ‘‘Thunder in an Ancient Savannah’’ (1997), ‘‘The Marriage of Arike’’ (2010), ‘‘The Trials of Afonja’’ (2012), and ‘‘Princess Ruka and the Bachelor Kings’’ (2014). His work has also been staged multiple times, including university-linked productions, and ‘‘The Trials of Afonja’’ was a finalist for the 2014 Wole Soyinka Prize for Literature in Africa.

I am gathering sources including reviews, interviews, university production pages, scholarly commentary, and other coverage. Before drafting anything, I would be grateful for advice on whether this seems potentially notable enough for a standalone article, and which types of sources would matter most.

In particular, would independent reviews, interviews, and academic discussion be enough if there is limited mainstream press coverage, or would stronger secondary coverage still be needed?

Thank you for any guidance. Moiracat1122 (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NCREATIVE has relevant guidance for the notability of creative professionals.
Please do not use AI to communicate on Wikipedia as you seem to have done here; we would much prefer to hear from you in your own words. Definitely do not use AI to assist in drafting your article, as that is not permitted. Athanelar (talk) 18:55, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Interviews by their very nature are not independent, so can't really establish notability in the vast majority of cases. The Wole Soyinka prize does have a Wikipedia page, so it can be argued that it's a notable prize that establishes that Abiodun is likely notable.
Rather than simply ask if someone is notable, your best approach would be to link the three best sources that you believe demonstrate notability, meaning that they're independent, reliable, and provide significant coverage of Abiodun. Asking a bunch of people to do a whole bunch of work to duplicate your effort to find sources is not likely to have many takers. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for replying.
Yes, I used AI to help me phrase my question. I’m new to Wikipedia, and I found the tone here a bit intimidating.
But to be clear, I did not ask anyone to decide whether Toyin Abiodun is notable for me, and I did not ask anyone to do the research for me. I asked what kinds of sources would be needed so I could do the work properly.
The point about finding the three strongest independent sources is useful, and I will follow that advice.
What I did not find useful was the assumption that I was trying to offload the work, because that was not what I asked. I am new, not lazy. Moiracat1122 (talk) 11:33, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Sarika Sanjot and Mukesh Modi

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Sarika Sanjot and Mukesh Modi

i dont think both is standard for Wikipedia ~2026-19613-43 (talk) 21:16, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch, thanks for pointing it out. I’ll start an AfD for both. FactStructure (talk) 21:20, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I have messed up something in my draft. Can someone please get it deleted completely so that I can start fresh.

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I am unable to edit. Santhon (talk) 21:36, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. You can request deletion under WP:G7 (author request)..tag it for deletion so you can start fresh. FactStructure (talk) 21:45, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Santhon (talk) 21:57, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Why not just blank the contents of the page and start over? Athanelar (talk) 21:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Santhon I have restored Draft:Raku da to the last version which had text on it. Has that solved your issue? Athanelar (talk) 21:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The Legendary Story of the Woman who took down the Viking

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This story is closely related to Canada before it was named Canada. This brave woman took down this Viking and was known as the Strong Woman that became famous for it. Could anyone create this article? I am sure I have read this story in a Blog before on the Internet. ~2026-19572-77 (talk) 02:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you create the article using Article wizard. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 03:49, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
One reason for this person not to do so any time soon, TheGreatEditor024, is that they mention no source other than some "story in a Blog". That would be utterly inadequate, as WP:42 points out. -- Hoary (talk) 04:24, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I'm legitimately amused that they're not even suggesting that they write an article based on a story they vaguely remember reading somewhere on the internet but for someone else to write an article based on the former's vague memory. It's a bit like me asking you to draw a picture of my dinner from last Tuesday, but not telling you what I ate. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 05:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes. I didn't notice the word "Blog". He or She would have to find independent, reliable sources that gives significant coverage to the topic. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 08:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Adding cast for a film or tv series

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When adding a series of tv series cast do you need to put a reference beside the actors name even with the casting in production section and already has a source of the casting? Miamiwin (talk) 03:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If the casting is already clearly supported by a reliable source in the production section you usually don’t need to repeat the same reference next to every actor in the cast list. However if any casting is not explicitly covered by that source then it should be cited separately. The key is that every piece of information must be verifiable from a reliable source. FactStructure (talk) 08:20, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How to add image to article?

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 Courtesy link: Jordan Silk

Wanting to add an image to a short article on a cricketer, can't figure out sequence to upload. Any tips? (I'm VERY new, sorry for the trouble :|) Ladderus (talk) 05:49, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ladderus Welcome! This kind of question is what this page is for. Details matters immensely. The rule of thumb is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used on WP or Commons, which is where we keep most of our "free" pictures. More at Wikipedia:Uploading images.
So, which pic and what cricketer? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:06, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The cricketer is Jordan Silk, and I've had a look now and can't find any copyright free images, so I'll let this one alone. Thanks though for the help and info 👍 Ladderus (talk) 06:19, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Ladderus That is very often the case, and also a reason that many of WP:s pics of living people are low quality, we use what we can use. If you want, you can try to contact him and point him to Wikipedia:A picture of you. Perhaps he likes the idea. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I need help with an new article submission

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 Courtesy link: Draft:DJ DOC MARTIN

DJ DOC MARTIN would like his wiki page created. I need help on how to get started. I am a close friend. Fatunicorn2020 (talk) 07:39, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Fatunicorn2020 See WP:BACKWARD and WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:33, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like you have a conflict of interest (COI) with us then. It sounds scary, but it just means that you have a close connection the article you want written. When you're begin writing the article about them, you have to disclose that you have a COI between you and said article; your guide to doing that is WP:DCOI, and a simpler explanation can be seen at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.
Generally speaking, you do want to get used to the basics of Wikipedia editing first (see Help:Introduction), before writing your first article, as writing articles first off is way harder than if you have prior experience in editing (if you're confident enough, see Help:Your first article).
Make sure your friend satisfies our guidelines for notability (see also the guide for notability of people in general), alongside other checks at WP:Everything you need to know, and then make a submission of the article at Articles for Creation. LS8 (talk) 08:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

A user is deleting it's AFC notice.

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Kindly see User talk:Grizun25, he is deleting the AFC notice template created by me from his talk page and adding his draft copy. I think it's not allowed. Any experience may take appropriate steps. Thanks VortexPhantom🔥 (talk) 08:49, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@VortexPhantom @DoubleGrazing I think that's quite allowed per WP:BLANKING. A few notices are not allowed to be removed, but yours is not one of those. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is allowed, but this is part of a bigger mess. There are a couple of registered users and at least one TA who are creating drafts on someone (presumably their boss), some in English, some not, some in the draft space, some on user talk pages. I'm going around trying to clean things up, but it feels a bit like Whack-a-Mole at the mo... -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:14, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Filipino vs Tagalog

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Hello! I'm seeking some third opinions here 'cause I can't get a answer on the WikiProject.

Recently, there's a disagreement (or maybe) on using "Filipino language" and "Tagalog language" on the OPM songs. Although, The Commission on the Filipino Language said that "Filipino" and "Tagalog" are the same language. Check here: Filipino language § Comparison of Filipino and Tagalog. ROY is WAR Talk! 10:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

According to MOS:PHILIPPINES, "Filipino is also the name of the national language. Examples: She speaks Filipino, Filipino-speakers." Don't know if it helps. You'd think this is something that has been settled by one or more rfc:s by now, possibly with "follow the sources." Consider trying to search the archives at the WikiProject or Talk:Philippines if you haven't. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:15, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Questions regarding the Wikipedia Book Creator Tool

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Good, afternoon. I'm trying to prepare a book with the Wikipedia Book Creator Tool (with intention to get it printed via PediaPress), with several wiki articles about a certain topic, and I have a series of questions:

I would need to exclude from the book some parts of these articles, in order to prevent redundances between them. Would that be possible?

I've seen that there's this "Template:Noprint" or "Template:Hide in print", which could allow to effectively hide content of the articles. However, I'm not sure if this is a good option, and I don't know either how should I put this code to use... Maybe I should make some kind of local copy of these wiki's that I want to include in the book?

Finally, Is there any option to directly upload an image to put it as the image of the front page (right now I can only do it with images that are included in the articles that I picked for the book)?.

Thanks, Dr Camprodon (talk) 11:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Dr Camprodon, and welcome to the Teahouse.
Most of Wikipedia may be reused freely (including making new things from it) as long as you attribute the source: see WP:reusing Wikipedia content.
The main exception is that some of the images are not freely licensed. If you want to reuse an image from Wikipedia you need to look at the image's own page (just click on the image) and see what the licence is. If it says "Public domain", you may copy and use it freely; if it says "CC-BY-SA", you may use it on the same terms as the rest of Wikipedia. If it says "Non-free", you would need to investigate the copyright of the source. You might need to contact the copyright holder to ask for permission, or you might not be able to use it at all.
For the mechanics of copying: unless you have your own copy of the Mediawiki software installed, you will not be able to make any use of the underlying Wikimarkup, so your best bet would be simply to copy the articles (or parts of them), and paste them into whatever word processing system you use.
You can download any image, using your browser or app (in most browsers you can right-click on an image, and you'll have an option to download it to your device). You can also search in Wikimedia Commons for images that don't happen to be in an article, or not in the particular article you're looking at. Any images in Commons are licensed for free reuse.
If this doesn't answer your questions, please come back and ask further. ColinFine (talk) 12:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to publish English page of a French school

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Hi, I'm trying to publish the english page of Draft:Atelier Chardon Savard But I got 3 refusal; the last one said:

his draft's references do not show that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion for schools. The draft requires multiple published secondary sources that:

provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, excluding routine coverage like sports results, league tables, government inspection reports, and listings in databases or listicles; are reliable: from reputable outlets with editorial oversight; are independent: not connected to the subject, such as press releases, the subject's own website, or sponsored content. Please add references that meet all three of these criteria. If none exist, the subject is not yet suitable for Wikipedia.

Individual faculties, departments, and student clubs are rarely notable on their own. You could add this content to the main educational institution article if one exists instead.

I'm not sure how to improve it furtherly. I have plenty of links on its alumni where either the articles explicity say that they come from that school, or it is posisble to see on the school website that the designer is its alumni.

Can you help me? Cleliak1234 (talk) 11:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Cleliak1234, and welcome to the Teahouse.
Each language Wikipedia is a separate project, with its own policies and practices. English Wikipedia is one of the strictest about sources; so it often happens that a translation of an article from another Wikipedia is not acceptable in English Wikipedia.
A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.
In other words, nothing published or written by the school, its staff, or its alumni, is of any help in establishing that the school meets English Wikipedia's criteria for notability - and without meeting those criteria, no article is possible.
Most schools (like most people, most companies, most bands, most charities) are not notable by English Wikipedia's standards, and articles about them are not possible. ColinFine (talk) 12:49, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for your explanation ~2026-19792-99 (talk) 12:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not inherited. That a whole bunch of notable people went to a school does not establish notability for the school, by Wikipedia's definition. Having a lot of notable people attend a school might lead to more coverage of the school, but it is that coverage that would demonstrate notability, not the alumni list. Given that this is short, and quite obviously written by an LLM/chatbot, it would be best to blow it up and start over, with a focus only on prose and independent, reliable sources that cover information about the school directly. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing NYT newspaper with multiple authors

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Hi, I'm wishing to cite a New York Times newspaper on the subject of Human-AI interaction § Human-AI romantic relationship, but it uses multiple authors, and I wish to cite the physical paper newspaper rather than the online article to prevent the hassle of offers of subscriptions. How can I do this?

Thanks, KneeHallHawk (talk) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @KneeHallHawk, and welcome to the Teahouse.
If you are using one of the citation templates such as {{cite news}}, then most of them have parameters first1=, last1= for the first author, first2=, last2= for the second, and so on.
If you are not using that method, I'm not sure how you would do it, but I'm sure there is a way. See WP:Citing sources.
A citation is to a source, not to a particular medium in which that source is available. Sources do not have to be online; and even if they are, a URL is in most cases only a convenience for the reader, not an essential part of the citation. So your citation should always include bibliographic information like title, author, publication, date, publisher, even if in practise every reader is just going to follow a link.
Even if a source is behind a paywall, you can still provide the URL: some readers may have access, or be able to get access. See WP:URLACCESS. ColinFine (talk) 13:01, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. KneeHallHawk (talk) 13:18, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Review request: Draft:Md Lutfor Rahman (army officer)

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I've submitted a draft for Md Lutfor Rahman(army officer) also known as Shaheed Lt Col Md Lutfor Rahman, psc. Could someone take a quick look to see if I'm missing any critical formatting? Draft:Md_Lutfor_Rahman_(army_officer) Truthseeker20092502 (talk) 12:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Truthseeker20092502 I fixed your link, the whole url is not needed. You have submitted the draft for review and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if not accepted.
How did you obtain the picture of him? If I had to guess, I'd say you took a picture of picture. 331dot (talk) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The picture is from the available photos of him on the internet and social media and on newspapers where the official list of the 57 martyr army officers including him are found. Truthseeker20092502 (talk) 12:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Truthseeker20092502, and welcome to the Teahouse.
I'm afraid that in that case, the picture must be assumed to be copyright, and you should not have uploaded it, or claimed it as "own work". I have nominated it for deletion.
Given that Rahman is no longer alive, it is likely that if your draft is accepted and becomes an article then the image can be uploaded to Wikipedia (not Commons) as non-free media and used in the article. But one of the conditions for that non-free use is that it may only be used in an article, not a draft; and another is that it must be used in at least one article. So wait until your draft is accepted before pursuing that.
In any case, an image is irrelevant to getting a draft accepted. (Please note, @KneeHallHawk. Nor is the name of his wife.)
The References section is indeed garbled. Some of the citations (<ref>....</ref>) are at the end of sentences and paragraphs where they should be, but the last six appear to be in the References section itself. ColinFine (talk) 13:15, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I had a brief look at your draft, here's a few things I'd change:
1. Put the photo inside the infobox
2. There seems to be an error in the References part of the article
3. In personal life, list the full name of his wife, if known. KneeHallHawk (talk) 12:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Review request: Draft:Md Lutfor Rahman (army officer)

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Hello! I have submitted a draft for Md Lutfor Rahman(army officer) who also known as Shaheed Lt Col Md Lutfor Rahman, psc, a notable officer of the Bangladesh Army who was martyred in the 2009 Bangladesh Rifles Pilkhana massacre. I have documented his significant role in the 2006 capture of JMB leader Khalid Saifullah in Chapainawabganj, supported by independent secondary sources like The Daily Star. Could a host please review the draft at Draft:Md Lutfor Rahman (army officer) to ensure the "Notability" and "Neutral Point of View" standards are met? Thank you! Truthseeker20092502 (talk) 12:59, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nesting templates without wrapping?

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Is there any way to nest two CSS templates in such a way that they don't wrap, except where they are explicitly told with <br>?

e.g. the appearance of some text in a sentence is determined with template 1, and the appearance of all the other text is determined with template 2. --DollarStoreBa'alConverse 13:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DollarStoreBaal44. It's unclear what you want. Please post the nested code and say what you would like to look different. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The text wants to wrap around when the style changes. I'm asking if it is possible to nest templates in such a way that the change in style doesn't also create a new line, so it looks like this:
Beginning middle end.

Currently, attempting to do this with the templates does this:

middle

This happens even when every template uses <span> instead of <div>. On top of this, the text that comes after the link occasionally comes out looking like code within a black box, like this:

middle


This doesn't always happen, but it's quite annoying.
This is for a project I'm doing on another wiki. In this project, the 'middle' template always contains a link, and the other template never does. Is this the problem? --DollarStoreBa'alConverse 16:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Here is an image of what is showing up. --DollarStoreBa'alConverse 16:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Please close the discussion. Turns out what you need to do is {{Template1|beginning [https://en.wikipedia.org {{Template2|middle] {{Template1|end}}}}}}. This is really slow and stupid, and makes each line end with 15 curly brackets, but it works and only uses templates, so I don't care. --DollarStoreBa'alConverse 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@DollarStoreBaal44: Your post was hopelessly vague without knowing the code you were trying to use but after seeing your screenshot and doing some detective work, I found https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/User:DollarStoreBa%27al/Snadbocks. Please link the page you want help with another time. The problem is that https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Header_link has a newline before noinclude and this newline is included when the template is transcluded. It has nothing to do with nesting. This Teahouse is for help with the English Wikipedia. explainxkcd isn't a Wikimedia wiki and we are not affiliated with it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:33, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
See also XY problem for the error you made by concealing the broken code, even after I asked for it. It made it impossible to give meaningful help. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

ITN April Fools policy

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Am I allowed to make joke nominations on April Fools provided I'm following WP:FOOLS, given that ITN is in the Wikipedia namespace? There doesn't seem to be any archived joke nominations from what I could find nor anything on WP:APRIL2025. ~2026-19793-12 (talk) 15:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Help

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is there an admin noticeboard to report stuff for admins to deal with? 72011copperfan2 (talk) 15:49, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about vandalism, that would be WP:AIV. --DollarStoreBa'alConverse 15:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! 72011copperfan2 (talk) 15:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

downloading an image

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how do i download an image from wikimedia commons site? Seanoconn7 (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Every file page on Commons has a "download" button at the top. Alternatively, just right click (or hold down on mobile) the image and select "Download". I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 16:46, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Seanoconn7 (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Username

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I accidentally put this awful Username, how can I Change it? This site is protected by hCaptcha and its Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply (talk) 16:59, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Follow the instructions at WP:Changing username. I'd be lying if I said that username didn't make me laugh though :) 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 17:01, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You can also just abandon this account and start a new one, since you only have a few edits. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 17:03, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@JohnLaurens333 Thanks for ur suggestions... whay if in the end i keep this username? lol This site is protected by hCaptcha and its Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply (talk) 17:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've decided to open another account, whilst keeping this one with the original username just This site is protected by hCaptcha and its Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply (talk) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@JohnLaurens333 This site is protected by hCaptcha and its Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply (talk) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, is there a way to tag @everyone or @admin so you tag like all users who are here or all admins? This site is protected by hCaptcha and its Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Qcdwojnjof: I certainly hope there isn't a way to do that. ColinFine (talk) 17:50, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there is a way to do that, no. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 17:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@JohnLaurens333 This is my New account Quizeyahu (talk) 17:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
btw i don't even like this fucking username because it sounds like netanyahu so this account is going to shit too Quizeyahu (talk) 17:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
i didn't give a fuck about thinking of a serious username so I just mashed some random shit on the keyboard Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Levine draft

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Hi,

I'm working on a Wiki page on Matt Levine and his impact on in professional sports marketing. Could someone please review my draft in my Sandbox: Acedog1514. Here is the url:

Draft:Matt Levine - I'm looking for feedback on how we can make it better, formatting insights and general thoughts. Appreciate any and all feedback.

Thanks in advance. Acedog1514 (talk) 17:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Acedog1514, and welcome to the Teahouse.
Please read the notes, and follow the links, in the decline notice at the top of the draft.
Given that the primary reason for decline was that the text appears to be generated by a LLM, your best course is probably to throw the entire text away and start again.
Go through your sources, checking each one against all the criteria in the golden rule. (For example, the first citation is to effectively an interview, and so is not independent, and is of limited use, and no use at all for establishing notability).
Then, assuming you have several sources which do meet the criteria, write a summary of what those sources say about Matt Levine, and nothing else. Given your status as a paid editor (thank you for complying with the policy and declaring this), it is particularly important (and possibly particularly difficult) that you effectively forget everything that Levine has told you, and work only from the independent sources.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Thanks for the initial reference regarding notability. I have redrafted from scratch and checked for an AI in several different tools to ensure consistency; it comes back AI-free. I think I've followed the golden rule (previously reviewed), but I didn't understand the nuance of using an interview first. I was under the impression that Sports Illustrated is an acceptable reference, as it is known for its editor-led fact-checking. Also, I have read all the references cited and have written this draft based on them. My writing style may be the issue causing concern. Earlier comments of unacceptable drafts supported its notability. So my question is, if you read this draft without reading Pythoncoders ' justified review, would you still feel the same way? Acedog1514 (talk) 18:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Who is this "we" you refer to? Are there multiple people accessing this account, or working on the draft?
I had a look at your sources. Some seem to be quoting Levine, but aren't actually about him, but are about sports teams. Other sources don't even mention him. What would you say are your top three WP:Golden rule sources? ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 19:03, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, no, I am the only person accessing this account, the reference to 'we' was inclusive of folks like yourself who provide feedback. My top three Golden Rule sources: NAME: Matt Levine". Sport Marketing Quarterly. 5 (3): 5–12. September 1996. Kennedy, Ray (1980-04-28). "More Victories Equals More Fans Equals More Profits, Right? Wrong, Wrong, Wrong". "New Edition Videos To Air During N.B.A. Playoffs" (PDF). Cash Box. Vol. 48, no. 50. Cash Box Publishing Co., Inc. 1985-05-25. p. 38. Retrieved 2026-02-16 and I would add the academic text - Lee, Don; Pearson, Demetrius W.; Cottingham, Michael; Lee, Myungwoo; Yu, Ho Yeol; Pitts, Brenda G.; Zhang, James J. (2021). "Management and marketing of sports in the U.S.: an introduction". In Pitts, Brenda G.; Zhang, James J. (eds.). Sport Business in the United States: Contemporary Perspectives. Routledge. pp. 4–5. ISBN 978-0-367-52840-9. Regarding your comment, "Some seem to be quoting Levine, but aren't actually about him, but are about sports teams. I don't think this is true. Can you provide a specific quote?" I've been quite careful not to say anything that cannot be supported by reference, but I may be presenting content in an unsatisfactory manner. I have studied other Wiki bios and am in line with them and with the WP:BLP guidelines. Acedog1514 (talk) 23:42, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Your first source is an interview. The preamble also has no byline, and could have been provided by Levine himself. This is basically a primary source.
The second source quotes Levine's opinions extensively, but the topic of the article isn't actually about him.
The third source doesn't even mention him.
While he does seem influential, possibly a path to notability might be WP:ANYBIO criterion #2, but you need more sources actually asserting that. Of the three you listed, only the first one says this, and the second one just implies it. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the feedback, very helpful - back to the drawing board:) Acedog1514 (talk) 01:55, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Transclusion of AfD templates by {{Excerpt}}

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Is {{Excerpt}} supposed to transclude AfD templates?

Specific example is that I encountered an AfD template in 2025–2026 Iranian protests § 8 January 2, transcluded from 2026 Fardis massacre. Given that Module:Excerpt/config does not contain AfD templates as an exception, such transclusion could be deliberate, but I'm not so sure about that given that said module and config are in beta.

Thanks in advance :) —Midnightsky7 (talk) 17:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Midnightsky7. The template itself is configurable and can leave out such things. Use {{Excerpt|2026 Fardis massacre|templates=0}} or see Template:Excerpt/doc#Details for how to not include a given template. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

how do i create an article

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ddf Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

np i found the article wizard Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:39, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

QUESTION

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AT HOW MANY EDITS U BECOME ADMIN? Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Qcdwojnjof. It's not determined by edits although you need a lot of them to have a chance. You have to request it and be approved. See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter ok Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter could u review my article Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again, @Qcdwojnjof.
You have submitted Draft:Rumble Stars Soccer, and it has been declined.
A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.
Writing a draft of an article before finding the necessary independent reliable sources is like building a house without first surveying the site to see whether it is suitable for building on: at best, you're going to have to go back and underpin the whole thing, and more likely it will fall down. Either way, most of your work will be wasted.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@ColinFine ok ok but i thought this was not a controversial topic Qcdwojnjof (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It may or may not be a controversial topic in the sense of people having different views (though I doubt whether it is).
But Wikipedia has robust standards for what we can have articles about, which mostly come down to, Has there enough been published about the subject, in reliable sources, by people completely unconnected with the subject, to base an article on? In that sense there is disagreement between you who want to write an article about your game, and me, who generally understands Wikipedia's policies, and would be surprised if your game meets those requirements. I may be wrong, but if I am, it is up to you (the one who wants the article) to demonstrate that it does.
(I note in passing that @Pythoncoder declined your draft, and didn't reject it, which would be the end of the road. That may mean that Pythoncoder believes that there could be an article on the subject, or it may mean that they didn't care to spend the time determining whether there seemed to be adequate sources, and gave you the benefit of the doubt. But you'll still need the sources to go any further with that particular draft.) ColinFine (talk) 19:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

QUESTION 2

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Is there a way to see which users are online? Qcdwojnjof (talk) 17:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No, there isn't. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 17:59, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
oh shit Qcdwojnjof (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't a social media site. Why would you need to know if another user is online? ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
One way is to look at the recent changes log Special:RecentChanges and see who is editing. There will be a lot of edits. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any users willing to take me under their wing??

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Hi. im new to this :) Im here to practise my journalism. id like some pointers please! ¬_¬ ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If you create an account, one of the things you'll be able to do is get assigned a mentor through the mentorship system. Athanelar (talk) 18:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Journalism isn't what we do on Wikipedia. We create and maintain articles that cite what journalists have already published. We don't perform original research or do our own reporting, which is what journalists do.
That said, I echo Athanelar's suggestion to create an account and find a mentor. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
ahhhhh. ok! thanks.btw how do you make articles? i cant figure out how... ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 20:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Check out WP:FIRST, but I'm pretty sure you need to register before you can create an article... - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
ahhh ok. im doing this via Kindle. soooo im unsure how to create a account. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Editing Wikipedia is much easier with a laptop or chromebook, but I know one admin who always uses a mobile device. Somewhere at the top of the page there should be a login link, and from there you can create an account. 23:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
oh i see. hmm ok. kindles are prettyyyy hard to do stuff like this on lol. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How do i create an account?

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I need to create an account so i an get a mentor. im unsure haw to do this. im doing this via kindle. so i need help pls ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Is there not a "log in"/"sign up" link at the top right of each page? - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-19693-86: I don't have a Kindle but if it has its own way to access Wikipedia then try to instead click a menu icon ☰ and look for "Experimental Browser". Accounts are created at Special:CreateAccount. The Kindle browser may have limitations and I don't know what it can do. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:21, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
ahh ok. ill try and do that. thanks!! ive never made an account yet and a i use Wikipedia alot so i thought it would make it easier. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
not for me apparenty. i can try and create one but it just sat there loading for an hour. ¬.¬ ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 21:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@~2026-19693-86: Try creating it on another device when it's convenient, but if the Kindle cannot create an account then its limitations as a browser may be so severe that it's also unable to log in to an account. Unregistered users can submit a draft article for review at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. I don't know whether the Kindle can do enough editing for that. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
oh ok!!! Thank you so much. this is confusing me lol. Thanks for answering all my questions! :) ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 22:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Declined Article Help

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I submitted a article for the habitat institute and the comments were "Comment: Primary sources do not establish notability per WP:ORG. DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)??" Can anyone see the draft and provide any assistance? Thank you in advance. EcoLaw101 (talk) 20:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I assume you are referring to Draft:The Habitat Institute. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about the existence of an organization and what it does. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. "Significant coverage" is critical analysis and commentary by people wholly unconnected to the organization. 331dot (talk) 21:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong conclusions on merge requests

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Hi :)

AS i had recently joined merge project i descovered that in some cases people come to the wrong conclusion and agree to merge articles that the only connection they have is purely by name. Is it costomary to appeal somewhere on a bad merge conclusion? I can give an example but i dont want to embarrass anyone. Happypenguins82 (talk) 21:05, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Happypenguins82. See WP:MERGEREVIEW. If it was decided to merge then I suspect "the only connection they have is purely by name" doesn't give the whole picture. You can link an example here but don't rehash the arguments. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:16, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Difficulty adding information

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Hello, I am hoping someone can assist me. I am the subject of a Wikipedia article (Marvin Singleton) and I am disclosing a conflict of interest per WP:COI. I have prepared a comprehensive expansion of the article in proper wikitext format, with citations to published, independent sources, and I would like a neutral editor to review it and consider adding it to the article.

The current article is essentially a stub — it contains only one sentence about my career. The draft expansion I have prepared covers the following sections, all supported by verifiable published sources:

  • Early life and education
  • Medical career (fellowships, board certifications, national leadership roles, peer-reviewed publications, book chapters)
  • Political career (Missouri Senate, 32nd District, 1990–2003)
  • Renewable energy (installed Missouri's first customer-owned grid-connected wind generator, 1979; sponsored legislation creating the MARET Center at Crowder College, 1992)
  • Autobiography (Just a Poor Country Boy, Story Scribe Books, 2023; ISBN 979-8-9863597-1-7; LCCN 2023933458)
  • Honors and recognition
  • Civic involvement (Missouri, California, and Kansas)
  • Kansas Silver Haired Legislature (elected Assistant Floor Leader, 2026)
  • Arabian horse interests
  • Genealogy (General Society of Mayflower Descendants)

Sources include the Kansas City Star, the Springfield News-Leader, the Joplin Globe, the Johnson County Area Agency on Aging newsletter, and a published autobiography with a Library of Congress Control Number.

I have tried to submit this via the Talk page but have had difficulty with the Wikipedia editing interface. I would be very grateful if an experienced editor could either:

  1. Help me post the draft wikitext to the Talk page with the appropriate {{request edit}} template, or
  2. Review the draft directly and, if it meets Wikipedia's standards, consider adding it to the article.

I am happy to share the full wikitext draft with anyone willing to assist. Thank you very much for your time and for your service to Wikipedia.

Marvin Singleton Marvinasingleton (talk) 21:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't use AI generated text in asking for help in the Teahouse. If you want to write your own draft, and put it in as an edit request, that is fine; copy and paste the wikitext and we'll look at it.
However, please note that writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is very difficult, since you have to forget everything you know about yourself and only write what is in published sources. For example, I'm very doubtful that reliable sources cover your "Arabian horse interests" and genealogy. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 21:42, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate your insight and obviously need to study a wee bit more, thanks. ~2026-20044-00 (talk) 21:11, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello!
Here's the essay that gives instructions on how to submit a request with the templates you need to get started. Wikipedia:Simple conflict of interest edit request. S1mply.dogmom (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
My advice would be to make edit requests, but to do so incrementally, one paragraph at a time, as long requests take a lot of time to review, reducing the chances a volunteer will want to invest their free time. 331dot (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
If your proposed expansion is AI-generated like your comment here, scrap it and start over. AI generated content isn't allowed in articles. Athanelar (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Marvinasingleton, and welcome to the Teahouse.
Please note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate the information and suggestions. I had no idea of the intent. ~2026-20044-00 (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What are Mentors for?

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Like do they review your drafts or something? I want to find one but im unsure what they do...not to sound stupid because i know mentors help you. But what do the ones on here help you with?-the queer hobit girl ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 22:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What do the mentors on here help you with? Like do they review your drafts or what???-the trans hobit girl ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi temporary account user! Mentors are editors who have volunteered to answer editing questions. There are also other editors who review drafts. You can read more about mentorship at Mentorship. Hope this helps! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 22:59, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Perfecf4th!!!! That helps ALOT. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 23:14, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Best welcome template

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What welcome template teaches all the basics of Wikipedia, while not overwhelming the user and not going into the advanced stuff ~2026-19771-29 (talk) 23:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I use welcome cookie,but I say all of them have the basics. Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 00:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
On the template itself ~2026-19771-29 (talk) 01:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I use {{welcome}} or {{welcome-belated}} depending on how long they've been here... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Or {{welcome-anon}}, for TAs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:11, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The basics have to be linked from the template and it can’t be too overwhelming and it shouldn’t go into the advanced stuff ~2026-19771-29 (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello? ~2026-19771-29 (talk) 03:11, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
These are the basics itself, nothing advanced TNM101 (chat) 09:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback requested on newly created list article: List of NBA career personal fouls leaders

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Hello! I'm a relatively new editor, and I recently created List of NBA career personal fouls leaders, which was moved from my userspace draft to mainspace. The article is modeled closely on List of NBA career turnovers leaders and includes a career leaders table and a progressive all-time record table (for both career and single-season records), all sourced from Basketball Reference.

I'd appreciate any feedback on the following:

  • Formatting and style – Does the article meet Wikipedia's standards for list articles? Are there any obvious MOS issues?
  • References – Are the citations structured correctly?
  • Content – Is there anything missing or any concerns about the tables or lead section?

Any general feedback is also very welcome. Thank you! Gumpy24 (talk) 00:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Error when referendum infobox is placed at bottom of page

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Hello! When I placed a referendum infobox at the very bottom of this page, it connected with the references and categories boxes. I tried to do it again to see if I made an error the first time, but I don't believe I connected them myself. Delcoan (talk) 00:52, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I added a {{col-end}} template to match the {{col-begin}}. Seemed to fix it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Delcoan (talk) 01:07, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Cite error

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A few months ago, when I was newer, I edited and added some info to this article on Maria Cristina de' Medici, and I am now looking to fix these cite error messages on the Wayback Machine. However, I am not completely sure if the method in which "wrapping the parameter value" (as said here) would be appropriate. Thank you for your time, OliviaRigby (talk) 02:06, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"Generic title" means that the title of your citation doesn't actually say the title of the source, but rather the name or status of the site that hosts said work (placeholder titles); in this case, it's "Wayback Machine". You can fix this by changing the |title= field to something of the actual source title.
I've done the changes for you. You can take a look in this diff comparison: [4] (Wikitext view, Inline off) nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 05:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I'll be able to fix this problem if I come across it now. OliviaRigby (talk) 05:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
As for wraps, it is accepted to false positives, where you did put the correct title, but is still flagged as a generic title error. For exmaple: |title=History of Wayback Machine can get flagged as generic title, as it contains Wayback Machine. To make this false positive error report go away, use double paranthases wrap, for example: |title=((History of Wayback Machine)) nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 05:39, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
[EC] In what is currently the last reference, you've used "cite web" for what is instead a 161-page book that happens to be on the web; you've given the title of the page as "Wayback Machine" instead of the title of the book. Try this:
Lippi, Donatella (2006). Illacrimate sepolture: Curiosità e ricerca scientifica nella storia delle riesumazioni dei Medici (PDF) (in Italian). Florence: Firenze University Press. ISBN 978-88-8453-521-4. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2016-09-17. Retrieved 2016-09-17.
It's the result of {{Cite book | title=Illacrimate sepolture: Curiosità e ricerca scientifica nella storia delle riesumazioni dei Medici | first=Donatella | last=Lippi | location=Florence | publisher=Firenze University Press | year=2006 | isbn=978-88-8453-521-4 | language=it | url=http://www.fupress.com/Archivio/pdf%5C4415.pdf | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160917161000/http://www.fupress.com/Archivio/pdf%5C4415.pdf | archive-date=2016-09-17 | access-date=2016-09-17}} (See Template:Cite book.) The next problem: You cite two discrete matters from the book, but you don't specify the page numbers. Please investigate Template:Rp. -- Hoary (talk) 05:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Scritture delle donne di casa Medici nei fondi dell'Archivio di Stato di Firenze is the size of a book (156 pages) but doesn't seem to be a book. So Template:Cite web is appropriate. But the current reference omits the author's name, etc. -- Hoary (talk) 05:46, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Help me with this page

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User:FullYellow/sandbox. FullYellow (talk) 09:47, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What help do you need? Athanelar (talk) 10:01, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I used to have an old account but can’t get any page accepted, can you give good reviews on my page and how I can improve it FullYellow (talk) 10:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read the advice in the decline notice and the comment the reviewer left at the top of the page? That appears to be the best advice for the situation. Athanelar (talk) 10:12, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The decline note is very simple and doesn’t includes details. FullYellow (talk) 10:15, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Click all of the blue links in the decline notice. Those pages have all the information you need. Athanelar (talk) 11:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The notice and the comment are more than enough information; it doesn't require a lot of space to explain that this article has no sources relevant to its subject.
The first two sources aren't usable to cite for anything really: you have a computer-generated SEO site and a list of archived files. The third is a forum post by the developer (so not independent or significant coverage), that doesn't say anything about the company. The last one is the only source that seems usable, but the significant coverage is about Geometry Dash, not the company, which is only mentioned in Topala's job title.
Notability is not inherited; Geometry Dash being notable doesn't automatically make parties involved with Geometry Dash notable. You need independent, reliable sources that are providing significant coverage of RobTop Games specifically. Right now, this article is basically unsourced, so this was a good decline. It wasn't rejected, since it's at least plausible you could find sourcing for RobTop Games, but after a search, I'm unconvinced it's likely that this company is notable apart from Geometry Dash. But you still have the opportunity to find those sources, should they exist. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please don't post the same question to multiple noticeboards. It's one thing if days went by without any reply, but you posted to here and the AFC help desk just four minutes apart. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:47, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

editing a stub when the automated filter claims the edit is "disruptive"

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There is a stub under "Confined liquid", subheading: confined to nanometer dimensions. There is only a stub, and the subject of confined water has become much more important based on recent (last ten years) work. I would like to change this stub to a full article (I have an article draft with 32 references (at this point--I cut it down from a longer book chapter in my book on "Water in Biology", which is three years old, plus some new references; I could easily extend it--it is rewritten, so there would be no copyright problems). The article is not controversial as far as I can tell, but it would replace the stub that is now all there is on the subject. How do I proceed? I tried just adding it to the top of the stub (which is not incorrect, just insufficient), but the automated filter rejected it as "disruptive". My article contains nothing political. I could extend it, with additional detail, but then it might become too technical for a general audience. Please advise M.E. Green T333678 (talk) 11:34, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say what happened with the automated filter you mentioned, but perhaps your text, which can be found here, contains words or sentences which triggered it. As to the text, you have said it's taken from your book..which means that you probably have a conflict of interest. As I am absolutely not knowledgeable about confined liquids...others might have more to say about that. But what we will probably need is an evaluation of the sources you used, and if they can be considered reliable sources. As you already started a thread on article talk...expand it for the time being is my suggestion. Lectonar (talk) 11:51, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
1) I have no idea how any of the sentences I used would have triggered the AI filter, but I also do not know how the filter is programmed; I do not believe anything in the text concerning Confined Water could be found "disruptive" by a human.
2) The article is completely written for Wikipedia--it does contain any text from the book chapter that is given as one of 32 references. The topic is the same as the book chapter title, but the book chapter provides a convenient review for a reader interested in further reading on the topic, at a more technical level; the chapter has 107 references. I have no conflict of interest. The book title is "Water in Biology" and this topic is appreciably less than 10% of the book.
3) The citations (other than the book chapter) are peer reviewed articles from standard journals, like Journal of Physical Chemistry B, JPC C, Science, J. Physics: Condensed Matter, Biophysical Journal, for some examples. There are no references that come from journals have rigorous reviewing practices (when I act as a reviewer myself, I also adhere to appropriate practice for reviewers, although that is not really relevant here).
This comment is very similar to the comment to which I replied earlier, and necessarily this response is very similar to what I responded earlier. I am asking how to proceed, having answered the queries like this to which I have responded. The suggestion that I expand the thread seems to suggest that I expand the proposed article, which I could. However, the more I expand it, the less appropriate it will be for a general audience. ~2026-19723-53 (talk) 14:18, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
correction" There are no references that come from journals lack rigorous reviewing practices ~2026-19723-53 (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, you're right that's an article that's crying out for improvement. It's quite hard to do, when you're a subject-expert, because you need to write it in an encyclopedic style appropriate for a normal intelligent person-in-the-street with no particular background knowledge; see WP:EX for advice. Also, Wikipedia is a tertiary source, not a secondary-review, so it can require a rather different writing-style and approach to what academic authors normally do when reviewing the primary literature. In particular, it is better to summarise review articles that have already summarised/reviewed the primary literature, rather than write your own overview of primary literature! This can feel very odd! I'd suggest having a look at the style of good articles on similar subjects. I had a quick look at the text you've prepared in your sandbox; you've got a great set of facts sorted out, and citations, but at the moment it reads a bit like a lecture rather than an encyclopedia entry. It will also need formatting, but I assume you are correctly leaving that as a later detail. Please don't be put off. Finding the facts and finding citations is actually much harder than sorting out mere stylistic issues. It's a pity there isn't an equivalent of WP:AFC for major-expansions of an article rather than de novo creation. Elemimele (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
AI filter, but I also do not know how the filter is programmed; the filter is 1233 and is just regex rather than any LLM driven filter. It was caused by having at least one "long string of characters with no punctuation or markup" as per the filter description. The text you tried to insert is here. I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on the other content. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 15:01, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any articles i can help with or fix errors??

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Id like to help write some articles or help fix some old ones or fixing errors or vandalism. Some links would be nice please.<3 Thank you ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 11:45, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Try the Wikipedia:Task Center...plenty of things to do which are linked from there. Lectonar (talk) 11:52, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
thank you Lectonar!! ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 12:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Also see WP:Maintenance, but the task center may be more useful for your topic. Versions111 (talkcontribs) 12:06, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I've started a draft article on Norwegian Johannes Kr. Tornoe that you are welcome to work on. He believed Leif Eiriksson landed in Waquoit Bay, Cape Cod. Most academics do place 'Wineland' in southern New England, but it is a contentious topic for sure.
Draft:Johannes Kristoffer Tornøe - Wikipedia Rockawaypoint (talk) 22:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Flayed

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So i saw a notice for him about people repeatedly putting notices about abuse on his page even though its ben taken down MULTIPLE times. So. It said editors need to keep watch on him and the other one. So arejust deleting the words about him abusing? because ive already deleted the one on Al-Flayed. Im just not sure what to do now. i didnt understand the notice very much. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 12:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@~2026-19693-86 We don't have an article by that name. Do you perhaps mean Mohamed Al-Fayed? It's not clear what notice you are referring to. Shantavira|feed me 12:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
yes thats who i ment. I saw it on the Signpost. It said editors needed to fix it? ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 12:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give us a link to the notice you're referring to? Athanelar (talk) 12:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
ummm. im not sure how to give links. can you tell me? ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Just copy the URL from the top of your screen on whichever signpost article you're referring to and then paste it here, or at least give us the title of the signpost piece so we can find it. Athanelar (talk) 12:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
ok. let me look real quick. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 12:56, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Cleaning up after Jeffrey Epstein, Peter Nygard, and Mohamed Al-Fayed. ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 12:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Are you talking about the line in the Signpost piece which says the WMF appears to have asked volunteer administrators or OTRS volunteers to keep an eye on the affected articles.? That's not a call to action, it's just explaining what happened in the past. Athanelar (talk) 13:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2026-03-31/Disinformation report Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

oh ok. I must have read it wrong lol. ty ~2026-19693-86 (talk) 14:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Created page for musician Joe Philpott

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Hi all, I am relatively new to Wikipedia and would appreciate any help -- I want to make sure that the page I created for Joe Philpott meets the Wikipedia standards for formatting and citations. Thanks in advance! WistahHoney508 (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting for the sake of discussion that about a half hour after this message was posted, Joe Philpott was redirected by TheLongTone. I am expressing no opinion on whether that was the correct course of action. MediaKyle (talk) 15:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The page that I created for Joe Philpott has disappeared. Why? It was redirected to Rubyhorse, with everything that I wrote wiped out. WistahHoney508 (talk) 15:25, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Note I restored the article as there was no reason to wipe it out. I was asking the community to make sure it was done properly -- not for its deletion, as Joe Philpott is a public figure and other members of his band have Wikipedia pages. Thank you. WistahHoney508 (talk) 15:28, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You Boldly created it; TheLongTone Reverted it (kind of) by redirection; you disagreed, so now you and they (and anyone else who wants to), should Discuss it and try to reach a consensus, preferably on the now restored Talk page of the article, which should stand for the time being to avoid descent into an Edit war.
This is the WP:BRD cycle that is a standard collaborative editing strategy on Wikipedia.
My own take (without checking the references) is that the article looks well constructed and written, but perhaps too great a proportion of it is about the band rather than Philpott specifically: this might be addressed by adding more about Philpott and his other work and summarising the Rubyhorse material more concisely. (And I presume all of it is in Rubyhorse: if not, it should be if referenced.)
Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 15:55, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I'm open to learning more about page creation -- but seeing a page deleted took me by surprise! WistahHoney508 (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I've made some improvements to the article, but the main issue is that it is lacking sufficient soruces - see Help:Referencing for beginners for guidance on adding them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:31, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I will look into this. All about learning!! WistahHoney508 (talk) 17:34, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Bahu Hamari Rajnikanth

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Hi i want to ask from you that i want to add this on article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahu_Hamari_Rajni_Kant

She is a highly advanced humanoid robot that is created with the intention of protecting and helping humans. She is also stronger than an ordinary human being, which enables her to stop moving vehicles and engage in combat with multiple enemies at once. She is also fast-moving. She is able to respond quickly due to her reflexes and agility, which is highly effective in situations where there is high pressure, especially in close combat situations. She is also effective in situations where there is high pressure since she is able to deal with danger in an effective manner.

She is created with the primary intention of protecting and helping humans. She is independent in the execution of her role but is also able to improve with time.

Is this okay? Also, I dont find trusted sites, only jiohotstar episodes is the way to prove these sentences are correct . can I add episodes nunber with link in refrence with each of the sentences? Is these evidence acceptable? I had edited and added this on that article but it was reverted after a few hours. Please reply me . 😊😁😉 Pratham31sinha (talk) 15:44, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Pratham31sinha welcome to English Wikipedia. These are not suitable for Wikipedia, because they are lacking Wikipedia:Verifiability. There are some thoughtful essays for creative works, specifically Wikipedia:Plot-only description of fictional works and Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:11, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Since Bahu Hamari Rajni Kant is a work of fiction, doesn't it serve as its own reference for plot and character content, so does not need separate reliable sources for such details? Of course, it can always be argued that a particular editor's description is incorrect, but that doesn't seem to be a great problem with other fictional works. {The poster former ly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 09:31, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Article style templates

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I know that some articles have uniform style guidance. For instance whether the article uses British or American English, date formatting, citation style, etc. Where in the article and/or talk page is that info found?

PS - I do a lot of editing on mobile so there is a possibility I can't easily see the information on mobile.

Thank you! PositivelyUncertain (talk) 15:45, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@PositivelyUncertain sometimes there is an explicit template used at the top like {{Use English}}, but sometimes no template is used and you should stick with either the article's established English variation/dates, or stick with whatever was used already. The policy is MOS:ENGVAR ColinFine (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the info, Colin. What about citation styles? Are there ever templates that designate those? I'm just curious. PositivelyUncertain (talk) 16:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Why is wikinews closing?

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I was just wondering why wikinews is closing I know this is a new change. Is it because of lack of demand? OwlLemons (talk) 15:53, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@OwlLemons Capacity, neutrality were too major issues amongst others. See a lengthier discussion on Meta project meta:Talk:Public consultation about Wikinews ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:03, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

inquiry about inserting headers,

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 Courtesy link: Draft:Bernadette Taklit Bardot

We Are Green and Trembling - Wikipedia ]

Yes, I am trying to insert headers with a line underneath in my article, draft, I just want to know like the one above, that says premises, and then a line, how can I include early life in my article, and then put a line underneath it. StudentOne33 (talk) 15:56, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@StudentOne33 welcome to Teahouse! This is the styling of h1 level headers Wikipedia:Headers, e.g
== Example header == which will cause a line underneath. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:00, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
However, that's not an h1-level header but instead an h2-level header. (Manually adding an h1-level header is never appropriate. Unless the software is suffering from some glitch, it will provide the h1-level header, and one of them is enough.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:25, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

cats

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


tell me more about cats ~2026-19982-80 (talk) 15:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

See Cats and/or Felidae. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
See cats and meow :3 nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 22:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Draft article to be reviewed, on Norwegian author Johannes Kr. Tornoe

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 Courtesy link: Draft:Johannes Kristoffer Tornøe

I believe I hit the right button last night to have a draft article reviewed... on Norwegian Johannes Kr. Tornoe. What happens next? Many thanks. Rockawaypoint (talk) 16:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wait for it to be reviewed; in the meantime, maybe try to fix the formatting by using other Wikipedia-covered authors as examples, like Alexander Pushkin. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 16:50, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Is there an error in the formatting. Can you please point to it and I will try to repair it. Rockawaypoint (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
First, the section at the bottom (Bibliography) is in bold. It should not be bold. There should be some more sections, specifically when you quote Anderson's book, you should have a section maybe titled Acclaim by other authors. Despite this I don't think it is good for the bulk of the page to be book quotes. Summarize what they say in your own words, as you clearly did in the sentence Tornoe was recognized as an authority on early Norse sailing techniques by British author John R.L. Anderson and American Prof. of Scandinavian Languages, Erik Wahlgren. I think it can make a good article, but needs some work that way. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 17:18, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I put it all aside for a few months. I had come up against a number of editors who disagreed that the area of southern New England is the most favored by academics as "Wineland". It is a highly controversial subject. I was "topic banned" for an "uncertain" amount of time. I'm not sure where things stand today. Maybe you could assist in helping to guide me in getting the ban lifted?? Rockawaypoint (talk) 17:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with topic bans, nor am I an admin that could un-topic-ban you. I'd reccomend you read WP:AGF more, since that seems to be what led to your topic banning, and then contact the user who topic-banned you to ask how to move forward. In the meantime, I might be able to help make the article conform more with the Manual of Style. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 17:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Do what ever you think will help to see this article on Johannes Kr. Tornoe published on Wikipdedia. He was an Norwegian researcher with theories that were accecpted as acturate in the 1930s ahd 1940s. In the 1960s Tornoe proposed that "Wineland" was in southern New England, and that the "Leifsbudir" settlement had been built on Waquoit Bay, Cape Cod. This upsets many people who would like to see the "Wineland" debate confined to sites in Canada. In fact, the majority of academics do in fact believe "Wineland" was in southern New England. How would I go about requesting that any 'ban' be lifted. Unfortunately, the "Wineland" debate has become a long running battle between proponents from Canada vs. the USA. Rockawaypoint (talk) 18:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Rockawaypoint, and welcome to the Teahouse.
Any statement like "xxx should be published on Wikipedia because he is/was/did ... " shows a misunderstanding of what notability means in Wikipedia.
Essentially nothing that a person is, was, did, created, produced, won, etc is directly relevant to whether they are notable in Wikipedia's sense. What matters is what people unconnected with them have published about them.
If somebody has done remarkable things, it is more likely that there is material about them; but not guaranteed. Some groups of people are not often written about, such as journalists and music producers, and so there are few Wikipedia articles about them compared to other groups.
What have people published about Tornoe? Not just about his books or his theory, but about him? (Notability is not inherited) ColinFine (talk) 18:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that Johannes Kr. Tornoe does not qualify to be included on Wikipedia? Rockawaypoint (talk) 19:04, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Rockawaypoint Not necessarily. The argument ColinFine is making is that if you can't find enough reliable, published, independent, secondary sources that cover the subject in significant detail (see WP:42) then yes, he cannot be included. But if you can find enough qualifying sources, you should be fine. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 19:17, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Johannes Kr. Tornoe was first published and became noted in 1933 with an article he wrote about the contest between Norway and Denmark over the political control of areas in Greenland. In 1935 he published an article about the mystery over the identity of a sailor's landmark on the east coast of Greenland. The British journal 'Geographic Journal' published a synopsis of his Norwegian article in one article of their own... in the 1935 issue run. He published another article in the 1940's about early Norse expansion on the North Atlantic. In the 1960s he published two books on the subject of "Wineland". He placed "Leifsbudir", Leifs booths or houses, on Waquoit Bay, Cape Cod. Other authors have praised him highly as an authority on early Norse seafaring. Some other authors dismissed some of his "work", but generally speaking Tornoe does appear to pass the test as a "notable figure." Rockawaypoint (talk) 19:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter what he published, it matters what others published about him. I could write hundreds of books and publish them but still wouldn't be notable enough for Wikipedia until several people write about me. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 19:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Johannes Kr. Tornoe has a page with links to other information on the Norwegian Polar Institute webage. That should qualify him as notable I'd think. There is more on him at Facebook page, - 'Vikings. On Cape Cod.'
Johannes Kristoffer Tornøe  – Polarhistorie Rockawaypoint (talk) 20:07, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
No single source can qualify him as notable. Collect maybe 3-4 sources and it might be fine. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 20:11, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Johannes Kr. Tornoe was mentioned many times in J.R.L. Anderson's 1967 book "Vinland Voyages." Link below. He is praised by Anderson many times. Anderson was the yachting editor of the 'Guardian' newspaper. Tornoe is also mentioned many times in Erik Wahlgrens 1986 book "The Vikings and America."
J. R. L. Anderson - Wikipedia
Anderson refers to Tornoe on pages 16, [Introduction], 172 -174, 199, 238, 275. On page 278 he wrote, - "The best bibliography I know of books and articles relating to the Norse discovery and settlement of North America is that compiled by Captain J. Kr. Tornoe and published in his Columbus in the Arctic? And the Vineland Literature (Bokcentralen, Oslo 1, Norway). Some of the works he lists, however, go back beyond the eighteenth century, and others may be out of print and hard to obtain; it is a scholar’s bibliography rather than a list of books for the general reader. But it is a notable compilation, and anyone embarking seriously on Vinland studies must certainly consult it."
Will that do? Rockawaypoint (talk) 20:34, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's two. Now find one or two more, and you can put it in the article and submit it. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 20:39, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
After you get un-topic-banned, of course. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 20:39, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Topic ban is just on "Vinland" and maybe "Vikings", yes?? Rockawaypoint (talk) 21:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Just Vikings. Vinland is part of that. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 22:23, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
So could you give advice on getting this ban lifted. What are the steps? Rockawaypoint (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know; contact the admin who got you topic banned in the first place. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 23:18, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
How do I find out who that admin was? Could you cut and paste here with the name? Rockawaypoint (talk) 23:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It's right there on your talk page: User talk:Rockawaypoint#Topic ban. It's the person who started that section. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 23:53, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:UNBAN for appeal instructions. It's been several months, and if you haven't edited in that topic area you can appeal. Six months is typically a good duration to wait before appealing. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. This can be very confusing. I'm not sure what exactly led to the original ban, or what 'type' it is... there were other editors who do not recognize southern New England as a legitimate candidate in the long running "Vinland" debate. I was trying to make it clear that southern New England is still in the running as the true location of "Vinland". This is very obviously contested by some people, usually Canadians who believe Newfoundland is "Wineland". But Newfoundland has not been accepted as "Wineland by the larger academic community. I'd like to get back to editing the topic of "Vinland" and any other related topics. Newfoundland was rejected as "Wineland" even by Birgitta Wallace, Parks Canada archeologist at L'Anse aux Meadows for many years. Rockawaypoint (talk) 19:22, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You shouldn't even be discussing the underlying topic beyond what is absolutely necessary to discuss your topic ban. The topic ban isn't some opaque mystery that had you no part in; there was ample discussion on your talk page and on ANI, in a discussion you participated in [5].
The community issued the topic ban, so the community would have to lift it. Given that you have done next to nothing on Wikipedia unrelated to the topic ban since, and this discussion, I suspect there would be a great deal of opposition to the topic ban being lifted. Including from me. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 08:01, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
CoffeeCrumbs, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Seems the banning was by other editors upset to learn that Cape Cod is still the one area of North America most academics believe was the true location of "Wineland". Even Helge Ingstad who found the site at L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland believed "Hop" was in southern New England. His understudy Birgitta Wallace also wrote in Gwyn Jones' 1986 edition of "The Norse Atlantic Saga", [page 300], that it was "...impossible to equate northern Newfoundland with Vinland." The debate over Vinland's location is still underway, and the 'evidence' still points to southern New England. Look for geographer Carl Sauer's book 'Northern Mists." He was the most influential academic geographer of the past 100 years or more. He placed "Leifsbudir" in Buzzard's Bay or west of it. Rockawaypoint (talk) 11:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

infobox display issue?

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In the WP app, when the introductory infobox is condensed (as opposed to opened), it displays as the following example ("HonourableThe", i.e., omitting a space between words such that they run together):

The Right HonourableThe Lord De La Warr, Lord Governor and Captain General of the Virginia Colony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_West%2C_3rd_Baron_De_La_Warr?wprov=sfla1

I am assuming this is more of a bug than an edit issue...? If so, where should I report/how can I fix things like this? Al Begamut (talk) 19:18, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Try the technical village pump or Phabricator. Toast1454TC 19:46, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

First Indigeneous Mayor

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I believe I am the first elected mayor in AMO, Ontario and maybe Canada. How do I speak to someone about this. I have my records Thank You ~2026-20096-42 (talk) 20:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If your question is related to Wikipedia, then please explain how; if it isn't, you're at the wrong place. If it is somehow related to Wikipedia, then NB Wikipedia is only concerned with what has been published by reliable sources. -- Hoary (talk) 22:11, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I would assume the reason you brought this here is because you'd like to see a Wikipedia article about yourself. I'm intrigued. Please tell me your name, and maybe provide a couple sources which discuss you (news articles and the like) and I will tell you if you qualify for an article here. If you do, I can probably create a short one. MediaKyle (talk) 22:17, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't my edit showing up?

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So I edited Unofficial Football World Championship to fix a missing bracket. When I checked the history, my edit showed up as being done by someone else. What happened? ~2026-20169-68 (talk) 21:22, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@~2026-20169-68: This can happen if they clicked edit on the same version as you but saved before you. If you try to make the same change then it doesn't actually change anything in the saved version and it becomes a null edit which isn't registered in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. Looks like I got caught up in the flurry of edits after the title changed hands. ~2026-20169-68 (talk) 07:10, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Oversight help and no access to email

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Hi, a younger editor has posted personal information and I don't have a safe WiFi connection to my email, how do I report to oversight? 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire (talk) (contribs)🔥 21:47, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Wind and Fire, I believe I know what editor you're talking about. I can email them for you. toby (t)(c)(rw) 21:51, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
 Done toby (t)(c)(rw) 21:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Tarlby it's surpressed now, but I emailed them before you and wasn't sure if I should comment here about it or not. HurricaneZetaC 22:00, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, doesn't matter. toby (t)(c)(rw) 22:01, 31 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricane Wind and Fire, you can email from Special:EmailUser/Oversight. -- asilvering (talk) 01:18, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Created a draft

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"Hi, I've created a draft for astrophysicist Elena Popova (Draft:Elena Popova). I've included several independent sources and media coverage. Could someone take a quick look to see if it meets notability requirements? Tmamedzadeh (talk) 00:22, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What you're asking for, Tmamedzadeh, is a review or perhaps something that might be called a "pre-review". We don't do pre-reviews. I took a quick look, and read Review waiting, please be patient. / This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. So please just wait, patiently. -- Hoary (talk) 01:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You are also welcome to add further referenced material and/or make other improvements to the Draft while you're waiting. It's not now set in stone until a reviewer gets to it. Good luck! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 09:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

April fools

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Trying to humourous afd Doki Doki literature club for April fools, with the reasoning of hoax article, How do I do that? Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 01:00, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If what you're saying is that you are trying to create a humorous AfD for Doki Doki Literature Club!, with the reasoning that "Doki Doki Literature Club!" is a mere hoax, but that you don't know how to create such an AfD (which would be based on a known falsehood), then it's lucky that such a hurdle prevents you from wasting the time of other editors in that way. Please edit constructively. -- Hoary (talk) 01:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
For April fools… Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 02:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hoary, humorous AfDs are allowed on April Fools, and please don't be so aggressive. I believe the links would be Wikipedia:Rules for Fools and everything that's linked on there. How specifically to make a humorous AfD I'm not sure though. Realtent (talk) 05:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I sit corrected and defanged, Realtent. Well, (i) think of something that would be humorous in an an original way (being stone-cold sober would help), (ii) read and digest "Joke deletion nominations", (iii) follow the recipe (as adjusted by "Joke deletion nominations"). Of these three, the first should be the most difficult. -- Hoary (talk) 06:27, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Well, never mind. Starlet! (Need to talk?) (Library) (Sandbox) 11:59, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

need assurance that ive edited an article correctly

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G'Day,

i made an edit to the LMG article and i just want to ensure ive done everything correctly, whilst my account is a bit old i defo dont know what im doing too much lol

i feel like i probably should have made it a proper citation but im not sure how to complete that in a table.

and looking at one at the top of teahouse, it was not a minor edit. (im a bit used to github where if i modify one line thats a minor edit)

thanks!

- Cooper

PS forgot to give the link of the edit! https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linus_Media_Group&oldid=1346495130 CooperDActor (talk) 03:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit looks good to me, CooperDActor. -- Hoary (talk) 04:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Would reverting be EW?

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At Traditional Thai clothing, I have been reverting a user who has been removing words and a source from the main body. Would reverting a 4th time there be 3RR, or would the edits fall under "clear vandalism" and I would be fine? Realtent (talk) 05:49, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear vandalism, so WP:3RR does apply, unless the edits turn out to be from someone who is evading a block. You might do well to look at the article's talk page; a user was recently blocked for disruptive editing regarding the same section.
I'd recommend an admin take a closer look, and maybe apply page protection. @Hoary is an admin, and they seem to be online, so perhaps they can help. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Em🐈ail me! 07:27, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

PixelPlanet.Fun

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i want to make an article on this website, but it unfortunately would have one primary source (the website itself). other than that, the only sources that mention the website are fandoms and Reddit. would this fail the notability/sourcing standards? frankie 06:04, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly would, Peachy1621. -- Hoary (talk) 06:29, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Peachy1621 I'm afraid so. There's a lot of things in the world, and only ~7 million of them so far have been determined to be worthy of inclusion in the project.
Checking whether or not the website satisfies our notability guidelines was a good first step, though! It's better to know sooner, before you start working on the article, rather than later. If you're interested in writing about other websites, you should check WP:NWEB for an overview of our notability standards for websites.
Happy editing! MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Em🐈ail me! 07:00, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for the useful reply frankie 07:28, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Request for feedback/review on Draft: Curtas Festival do Imaxinario

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Hi everyone,

I've been working on a draft for Draft:Curtas Festival do Imaxinario and I was hoping someone could take a quick look at it.

I'll admit I struggled a bit with the Wikipedia system when I first started—it was a bit of a learning curve for me—but I've put a lot of effort into fixing the sources and making sure the tone is neutral.

I’d really appreciate it if an experienced editor could check if I’m on the right track or if there’s anything else I should polish before it goes live.

Thanks for the help! Carlos Dal (talk) 08:12, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Dal Hello. You had, probably inadvertently, coding in place to prevent your link from working, I fixed this. You have submitted your draft for review and it is pending. The process is volunteer driven, so may not occur quickly. The reviewer will leave you feedback if it is not accepted. 331dot (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

finding someone that talks?

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hello is there anyone there that can talk? Tonk boi (talk) 09:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The Teahouse is for asking questions related to Wikipedia, not general chat. Do you have a question? 331dot (talk) 09:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting for Article Publishments

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Hello Host,

I hope you're doing well,

I have been trying since so long my article draft has been declined two times i want to add about my company Rotoris how can i make it please guide me.

I am waiting for your help and guidance

Regard Aditi Sharma Rotoris Aditii2516 (talk) 10:40, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Note that paid contribution is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. Even if you do so, disclose COI for paid contribution on the draft main section at the top as per WP:COI as well as on the user page of your. Reviewers are concerned about:-
  • Your article reads like a advertisement, so work on neutral tone
  • There is possibility of usage of LLM. hence, you should summarise in your own words.

Work on neutral point of view, establishing notablity criteria for company and organization or general guidelines by providing independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage on the company, primary sources can't alone establish notablity. VortexPhantom🔥 (talk) 11:34, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]


First article at AfD - help understanding and rectifying

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Hi everyone! I'm a relatively new editor and my article on Pulsar (social listening platform) has been nominated for deletion. The nominator's concern is WP:GNG and a lack of WP:SIGCOV.

I've found some high-quality, independent sources: a World Health Organization (WHO) report and a peer-reviewed study in Frontiers in Big Data. I've added these to the article, but as a new user, I’m worried about my "Source Editor" formatting and whether I've properly addressed the "Conflict of Interest" concerns raised (I'm a fan/user of the tool bit of a special interest, and using it to learn wiki editing...not as well as I'd hoped.). I have loads more than are on the page but didn't want to overload the page, I have like 13 academic references and 15 press references including New York Times and The Guardian.

Could someone please take a look at the new sources and the article's tone? I'd appreciate any advice on how to better present these to the community in the AfD discussion. Thank you! Constellationconvert (talk) 10:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]