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Welcome!

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Welcome!

Hello, BookishReader, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!

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Hello! BookishReader, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz Read! Talk! 18:07, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hello, BookishReader. Thank you for your work on Bristol Hotel, Karachi. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Good start. Why past tense ("was") in the first sentence? Happy editing.

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North8000 (talk) 15:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Early Wiki Anniversary Wishes ๐ŸŽ‰

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Happy Wiki Anniversary
Happy Wiki Anniversary

Dear BookishReader,

Your wiki anniversary is just around the corner, in 2 days! What a wonderful milestone of 3 years on Wiki (as per SUL). Your incredible contributions, with over 2,613 edits, have truly made a difference. Here's to another amazing year of collaboration and knowledge sharing!

Use this Tool to send wiki anniversary wishes to other amazing Wikimedians.

- : Suyash Dwivedi (๐Ÿ’ฌ) 15:24, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi BookishReader. Thank you for your work on Nishat Mahal. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for your work on this article. Please add more sources to establish notability as per WP:NBUILDING. Thanks and have a great day!

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Mariamnei (talk) 13:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

December 2025

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Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your recent edits to Bambino Cinema when you modified the page, you introduced unknown parameters. Just because you specify |some_param=some_variable does not always mean that variable will display. The |some_param= must be defined in the template. You can look at the documentation for the template you are using but it is also helpful to use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and ensure that the values you have added are displaying correctly. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the page will look like without actually saving it. It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. Note I have likely fixed the error by now so check the history of the page to see how it was fixed. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi BookishReader. Thank you for your work on Empress Bridge. Another editor, Klbrain, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thanks for creating this article for a 19th century bridge that is still in operation; quite an achievement!

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Klbrain (talk) 04:08, 29 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi BookishReader. Thank you for your work on Sher Shah Kabari Market. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for taking the time to write this article! Your contributions are greatly appreciated. Have a blessed day!

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โœ  SunDawn โœ  Contact me! 06:21, 14 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

The AI Con

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Great work on The AI Con! Have you ever nominated an article for Did You Know? This article has a number of potential hooks. Best, Thriley (talk) 04:08, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Thriley. I appreciate your work as well. No, I have never nominated an article for DYK. You may help if possible. BookishReader (talk) 18:40, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Came here to echo what Thriley said back in February. Just saw your article and wanted to thank you for doing a great job. You missed the deadline for DYK on the first pass, but you can reach it again by bringing this article to WP:GAN. I think more work is needed to get to that point. Viriditas (talk) 22:45, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

New page reviewer granted

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Hi BookishReader, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

This is a good time to re-acquaint yourself with the guidance at Wikipedia:New pages patrol. Before you get started, please take the time to:

You can find a list of other useful links and tools for patrollers at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Resources. If you are ever unsure what to do, ask your fellow patrollers or just leave the page for someone else to review โ€“ you're not alone! signed, Rosguill talk 03:30, 24 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ramisha Sattar

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Hi, I noticed this edit where you removed a category. The information is sourced in the article body. Is there something I'm missing here? Wracking talk! 00:20, 26 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Wait... just noticed Category:American artists of Pakistani descent is there. Sorry! Wracking talk! 00:21, 26 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

HiSoft Systems AfD

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I don't know if some stray copy code somehow got in there, but you accidentally asked to speedy your own nom; removed because it ended up on the daily AfD log to suggest that should be speedied, and that someone doing that feels like it wasn't intended. Nathannah โ€ข ๐Ÿ“ฎ 03:59, 28 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

SEO & Wikipedia

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I'd love to get in touch with you about the AfD discussion for Barry Schwartz and the overall dynamic between the SEO industry and Wikipedia. I don't know if you've seen the off-Wikipedia backlash about it, but it has created a real hubbub in the SEO space. I wrote something for my Substack that I think is well-balanced and reasonably accurate that I don't want to share here (that feels a little too promotional for a Talk page) but I'd send you a link to it if you're interested. I want to write a followup piece that goes deeper into people's reactions and motivations around the deletion, whether Keep or Delete. I also notice you've nominated a few other SEO- and marketing-related articles about companies and people for deletion (Conductor, Dotdigital, Thomas Borwick, etc). I think there's a really interesting story here and it's still ongoing. If you want to talk, reach out at DFrederickLovett at gmail dot com. Dflovett (talk) 02:40, 19 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. If you have any specific questions, I'd prefer to answer them here. BookishReader (talk) 13:19, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good.
First question: I'm curious about the focus you've had on SEO-related articles, in terms of both deletion and editing. Is there a particular interest or concern you have with the current state of SEO-related articles? There are the ones I mentioned above (Barry Schwartz, Conductor, Dotdigital, Thomas Borwick) and I'm curious what's driving this. Do you have particular frustration with the SEO industry and its past and present actions on Wikipedia? Or is there a different reason that you have made an effort in this particular area? I did notice that you also started AfD discussions for other various startups, especially defunct startups, and technology companies, so I'm wondering if maybe this is just a broader effort to clean up articles in the tech and marketing space and SEO is just one piece of the puzzle.
Related: Are you philosophically a deletionist?
I noticed you edited the Search Engine Watch article but didn't nominate it for deletion, despite it only having 4 references. Is that an example of an SEO-related article that you think is good and how did you determine that?
For context, and so you know that I'm not attacking you, here is what I've written about this topic so far: https://edithistory.substack.com/p/the-animosity-between-seo-and-wikipedia
There is a lot of ill-informed (in my opinion) hubbub around Barry Schwartz's deletion in the SEO world, and so I thought your POV could be valuable. Dflovett (talk) 18:24, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi @BookishReader - I'm going to be publishing a followup on this soon and am curious if you had a point of view you wanted to share. Dflovett (talk) 18:08, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

New pages patrol May 2026 Backlog drive

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New Page Patrol Newsletter - May 2026

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Hello BookishReader,

New Page Review queue November 2025 - May 2026

Backlog update

At the time of this message, there are 15,282 articles and 32,951 redirects awaiting review.

After the Januaryโ€“February drive the article backlog was reduced to 15,179 articles and the redirect backlog to 19,053 respectively. Great job! However, both queues are growing rapidly and any additional reviews are highly appreciated.

2024 and 2025 NPP Awards

JTtheOG was selected as the NPP reviewer of the year for both 2024 and 2025, for reviewing the most articles amongst all reviewers.

Hey man im josh and MPGuy2824 won the Redirect Ninja Master Award for 2024 and 2025 respectively, for reviewing the most redirects.

Overall in 2024, one Platinum, two Gold, eight Silver, 12 Bronze and 45 Iron Barnstars were awarded. Additionally, 66 reviewers got the NPP barnstar for doing more than 100 reviews through the year. In 2025, one Platinum, ten Silver, 13 Bronze and 38 Iron Barnstars were awarded. Additionally, 38 reviewers got the NPP barnstar for doing more than 100 reviews through the year.

BoyTheKingCanDance, Rosiestep, SunDawn, and Vanderwaalforces were inducted into the NPP Hall of Fame for having two separate years of 2,000+ article reviews.

Januaryโ€“February backlog drive

The experimental two-month long backlog drive concluded with 183 reviewers patrolling over 27,761 articles and 35,309 redirects, earning over 36,836 points. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 6,484.6 points in this drive.

May backlog drive

An article-only backlog drive is currently underway. We are hoping to make a big dent in the backlog. You can read more about it or join at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2026.

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May 2026 NPP backlog drive โ€“ Points award

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar   
This award is given in recognition of BookishReader for accumulating at least 25 points in the May 2026 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped review 14884 articles during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and helping reduce the backlog! โ€“ DreamRimmer โ–  15:57, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Advice regarding the Dina Patel article

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Hello BookishReader,

I hope you don't mind me reaching out. I noticed that you're an experienced editor and New Page Reviewer, so I thought it would be best to ask for your advice rather than debate the AfD itself.

Setting the Dawn article aside, I wanted to ask how you would assess the subject's broader body of independent coverage.

Over the past several years, Dina Patel has been covered by a number of publications in relation to rallying and motorsport, including:

  • Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty covering her victory at the Hub Rally Cross. (Included and cited in the article)
  • BOL News profiling her rally career.(Included and cited in the article)


  • Arab News covering Race Wars Pakistan and Pakistan's developing drift scene.(Included and cited in the article)


  • PakWheels' editorial coverage of Race Wars Pakistan and other motorsport events.(Also included and cited)

Additional reporting covering the Cholistan Desert Rally, Hub Rally Cross and drifting competitions in Pakistan.

My understanding of the General Notability Guideline is that it considers whether a subject has received significant coverage across multiple reliable, independent secondary sources over time, rather than relying on a single publication.

Would your concern be that these sources are not sufficiently independent or substantial, or is the issue primarily that the current article does not present them appropriately?

If the article were rewritten into a concise, neutral biography focused solely on verifiable motorsport achievements and supported only by the strongest independent sources, would that better align with Wikipedia's expectations?

I'm genuinely looking for guidance on how the article could better comply with Wikipedia's policies. Given your experience reviewing new articles, I felt your perspective would be particularly valuable.

I love learning new things and would appreciate your guidance. ~2026-23942-64 (talk) 21:56, 13 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

I think her notability is weak to borderline. It is obvious that someone is consistently trying to promote her. Please note that Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion. When a subject, or someone connected to them, tries to promote the subject, especially when their notability is borderline, the article is usually deleted.
Please read WP:COI and ask your team to stop this promotional campaign. Since the article is currently at AfD, the Wikipedia community will decide its outcome. BookishReader (talk) 11:03, 18 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Articles for Creation backlog drive

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Hello BookishReader:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive in August!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than a month of outstanding reviews from the current 3+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 August 2026 through 31 August 2026.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 5000 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:36, 19 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Decline Appeal: Draft:Abdul Rauf Janjua

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Hi BookishReader, I am writing to respectfully request a re-evaluation of my draft Draft:Abdul Rauf Janjua, which was recently declined. I believe the draft was assessed under the general notability guidelines (BIO) rather than the "Notability guidelines for academics" (Wikipedia:NCITE). Dr. Rauf is an Associate Professor and Director of ORIC whose public health research meets Academic Criterion 1 (significant scientific impact). His co-authored multiple research papers are published in high-impact, peer-reviewed international journals indexed in PubMed/PMC, including Oxford University Press (The European Journal of Public Health, PMID: 20601693), Springer (PMID: 30542789), MDPI Viruses (PMID: 36146743), and Springer Nature / Egyptian Liver Journal (DOI: 10.1186/s43066-024-00319-6) ect. He also holds a significant leadership role in the development sector, serving as the Deputy CEO and CEO Designate of the READ Foundation Pakistan, which is one of the largest non-profit educational networks in the country. Furthermore, he meets general notability (GNG) via extensive, significant, independent secondary media profiles dedicated entirely to his life, academic work, and leadership roles, including:

  • BBC Urdu video feature
  • ISPR Official national "Heroes of Pakistan" documentary features
  • Radio Pakistan special broadcast feature
  • Full-length written biographical features in mainstream national outlets Express Urdu and Samaa News
  • Independent coverage of institutional roles in The News International

Given these heavy academic peer-reviewed citations and deep independent secondary media coverage, could you please take another look, or allow the draft to be reviewed under the proper academic criteria? Thank you so much for your time and guidance. BB Janjua (talk) 17:16, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

You can resubmit. But I'd recommend you revise the draft and write in a neutral tone. Remove LinkedIn etc. BookishReader (talk) 04:39, 22 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Redirect of Pakistan Supercomputing Centre

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Hi BookishReader,

I'm reaching out about your 22 July edit that redirected Pakistan Supercomputing Centre to Namal Institute. Disclosure: I'm connected to the organization the article covers, so I'm not asking you to reverse it on my say-so โ€” I'd just like to understand your reasoning and see whether there's a path forward.

A few things made me want to check in directly: the article had gone through Articles for Creation and was accepted into mainspace by Dafootballguy on 7 June, and in the weeks after that it was independently expanded and cleaned up by several other editors (a sourced section on the National Centre of Excellence in Supercomputing was added, plus categorization work). None of that guarantees it should stay standalone, but it suggested the topic had already cleared at least one round of outside review.

Could you let me know what specifically prompted the redirect โ€” notability, sourcing, something else? If it's a sourcing gap, I'd rather work on finding independent coverage than push back blindly. And if you feel it should stay merged, I'm fine taking it to Redirects for Discussion for outside input rather than relitigating it just between the two of us.

Thanks for your time either way.

UCERD (talk) 08:49, 25 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Mainly because it was AI-generated ([[WP:NOLLM) and we don't need separate articles when the coverage is not significant, read WP:NOPAGE. BookishReader (talk) 22:16, 31 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

August 2026

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Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your recent edits to University of Kamalia when you modified the page, you introduced unknown parameters. Specifying |some_param=some_variable does not always mean that variable will display. The |some_param= needs to be defined in the template in order to work. You can look at the documentation for the template being used, but it is also helpful to use the preview button before savingan edit; this helps find any errors that have been made and ensures that the values added are displaying correctly. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show what the page will look like without actually saving it. It is highly recommended that editors use this before saving. Note I have likely fixed the error by now so check the history of the page to see how it was fixed. If you have any questions of if I can help explain further, please let me know! You can also contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:04, 1 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

CS1 error on Pride of Performance Awards (1972โ€“1999)

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