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By cardboard box I mean something like the boxes from Hello Fresh, but I'm just filling it with books.

Can I bring it as a checked-in baggage, if it is under 20kg or 23kg and within 80cm x 120cm x 120cm?

Clearly, I'd like some link to official Ryanair documentation.

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  • A box of those dimensions filled with books weighs a lot more than 23kg, so it's a little confusing that you both talk about filling it and about staying under the weight limit. Commented 23 hours ago
  • I can assure you that's not necessarily the case. I've filled a couple of those boxes, and they weighted 19 and 21 kg. Whether the difference between this measure and the "log more than 23kg" you mention is due to the type of paper, or some empty space due to the books not having all the same sizes, I don't know. Forgot to say, I picked the picture on internet. My box might be slightly larger. I used the picture to mean the type of cardboard. Commented 21 hours ago
  • That will be in the discretion of the check in agent and you won't know until you are at the airport. Even if they accept it, they likely will have you sign a liability waiver so you get nothing if the box gets damaged or destroyed. Ryan Air being Ryan Air: this sounds like a bad plan. It would be much better to put the books with some stuffing in a regular suitcase. Given the weight limit, even a small one will do. Commented 21 hours ago
  • @Hilmar, Ryan Air being Ryan Air: this sounds like a bad plan sounds like a standalone answer, ahahah. Commented 21 hours ago

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  • Books are a lot more dense than most other stuff (this is the reason moving boxes for books are a lot smaller than the other boxes). To stay under the weight limit you probably need to make sure the box remains quite small (very, very far from the maximum dimensions).

  • Books being heavy and cardboard boxes being fragile, you need to make sure the contents are well packed with no extra space which would lead to books moving around and potentially tearing through the box.

  • Cardboard boxes are quite sensitive to external stimuli such as being thrown around (manually or by luggage conveyors), having other luggage (with their wheels and handles) thrown against them or piled on them (imagine 4 or 5 bags weighing 23 kg each on top of your box), or meteorological conditions such as rain or snow (which they will be subject to between the terminal and the plane, I don’t think Ryanair use containers).

Remember that your box will be thrown around:

  • By the luggage conveyor system between check-in and the holding area
  • Onto carts
  • Onto a conveyor belt into the plane
  • In the hold

And the same thing in reverse at the destination.

So at the very least you need to make sure your box is:

  • Not too large in order not to be too heavy

  • Well packed so nothing moves around and the box does not get squashed if stuff is piled on top or pierced either by the books inside moving around or by the wheels of other luggage encountering “soft spots”

  • Well enclosed and protected, probably with lots of tape or film (possibly both), to manage the (not very careful) manipulations, heavy rain that could fall on it, and so on. Always remember to tape in both directions on all sides.

Adding “heavy” stickers on them (on all sides) is probably a good idea so that handlers don’t break their backs more than needed handling a box much heavier than its size suggests. It may deter the check-in agent though.

Remember that “handle with care” just doesn’t exist in the industry. Any such stickers will be ignored. Handlers don’t care about the bags, they just throw them around, and their only concern is trying not to get hurt doing so.

Also remember that handlers usually make use of handles on luggage. Here they will have to grab the box directly.

If the box looks flimsy in any way it will be rejected at check-in. If you can’t imagine it being forcefully thrown a meter or two away ten times, it’s not well packed. If you can’t step and stand on the box it’s not sturdy enough.

A final note: books seem to have a weird signature on scanners, and anytime we’ve had any significant quantity (much less than a boxful though), we’ve seen the bag opened and inspected. They will tear through any tape, and are unlikely to tape it back up correctly (if at all) afterwards. YMMV depending on the origin/destination and other parameters.

You may be better off carefully packing the books in a regular (but solid enough) suitcase instead of a cardboard box.

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Even if your cardboard box meets he size and weight criteria you cite, Ryanair could decline to carry the box as set forth in Section 8.9 of Ryanair's Terms and Conditions:

8.9.2 We may refuse to accept baggage that, in our reasonable opinion, is not properly and securely packed in suitable containers.

What is a "suitable container" is not explained. A cardboard box full of heavy books might well be refused.

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    The weight limit is 20 or 23 kg, such books can be fitted in a box approx 35 x 35 x 35 cm (based on packed books density of 500-1000 kg / m³). Presumably a suitable container is one that can be handled and survive rough treatment without breaking. At the least, it would need 2 bands of gaffer tape in all directions. Commented yesterday
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    I wonder if wrapping it in plastic at the airport would make it ok. That plastic is very very resistant. Commented yesterday

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