Timeline for "Maslow, and Freud and _____X____ ?". I would like help filling in the blank. Understanding the composition of one's self
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| Aug 2, 2025 at 13:26 | comment | added | Hudjefa | What happened to my big, beautiful post? :) | |
| Aug 2, 2025 at 11:54 | comment | added | Hudjefa | @ScottRowe, thank you for the prompt response. The caste system, racism, speciesism, lookism, all branching out from a solid main trunk. Astounding facts to blow your mind, eh? Even when there are so many Freudian reasons not to be so divisive - commonalities in cuisine, clothing, language, etc. | |
| Aug 2, 2025 at 11:45 | comment | added | Scott Rowe | @Hudjefa - "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents is a nonfiction book by the American journalist Isabel Wilkerson, published in August 2020 by Random House. The book describes racism in the United States as an aspect of a caste system—a society-wide system of social stratification characterized by notions such as hierarchy, inclusion and exclusion, and purity. Wilkerson does so by comparing aspects of the experience of American people of color to the caste systems of India and Nazi Germany" - I think it will have a close, personal meaning for every human who reads it. Amazing scholarship! | |
| Aug 2, 2025 at 11:31 | comment | added | Hudjefa | @ScottRowe, does it have a close, personal meaning for you? Who is the writer, if I may ask. | |
| Aug 2, 2025 at 11:29 | comment | added | Hudjefa | It is my humble opinion that Maslow hadn't read Freud. Freud was a genius; can you imagine yourself harmonizing random 2ky old Greek myths with modern scientific discoveries of the 19th century? I shall read him more thoroughly the next time I get the chance. I shall also recommend him to my friends. I hope this isn't the Oedipal complex unleashing my id, repressed memories, etc. etc. | |
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| Mar 5, 2025 at 12:18 | comment | added | Scott Rowe | If you read any book, ever, read Caste. | |
| Mar 5, 2025 at 8:56 | answer | added | Chris Degnen | timeline score: 1 | |
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| May 2, 2024 at 7:38 | history | edited | Alistair Riddoch | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 27, 2024 at 17:50 | history | edited | Alistair Riddoch | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 27, 2024 at 17:12 | comment | added | SystemTheory | I don't want to engage in extended discussion. The sounds made by babies may be the most economical or typical for the human organism. But they form in a social context as the experience and expression of biological drives for social interaction with the innate or instinctual capacity to develop language. In Trademark law there are descriptive names, suggestive names, and arbitrary and fanciful names. XEROX, for example, is a meaningless name that aquires "secondary meaning" via use in association with goods for sale in the markets. Man lives by every word from the mouth of God starting w/Mom. | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 17:03 | comment | added | Alistair Riddoch | At least, that was his suggested reasoning behind the terms, and it makes good sense to me. I stated it as though it is fact. I do not know that to be so. (but it sure makes sense). | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 17:02 | comment | added | Alistair Riddoch | I learned from a guy taking some psych an dlanguage courses that "mama" and "papa" are the words mostly associated with parents, because... they are the easiest, and most natural and first sounds a baby is capable of making. MaMa being just an outbreathing while opening and closing, and PaPa being the first "hold and pressure build and release" movement of the lips. Motion 1 and Motion 1 in lip and tongue and teeth control.. WE AS PARENTS then chose to imagine that the kids mean US... well, because who else would they mean... and we reinforce and teach the kids... "MAMA".... THAT's ME !! | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 16:44 | comment | added | SystemTheory | Contemplating feral child syndrome used to evoke the most intense pain for me. I map this pain to concepts called abandonment trauma and The Problem of Evil. Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but upon every word that comes from the mouth of God." Among the first words from the mouth of a typical human child are signs associated with the presence of "mother" and "father". The absence of a biological need is called a deprivation. One infers that pain arises in the context of deprivation; but the body can defend against persistent pain; and with adverse long term impairment. | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 16:29 | comment | added | SystemTheory | Dramatic artists express such thought experiments. I don't regard Freud as a scientist, nor social psychology as an empirical science, I regard it as introspection of myself and my analysis of patterns of drama. This is a very enriching way to live but I detest the fools who want to imitate scientists in their drama rather than to say that we must experience drama to understand and discuss the experience of drama. I used to stand in a bar in a Zen posture. My friend called this: Tarzan standing on a rock. As a teen I wanted to be like Tarzan (but not baby Tarzan): youtu.be/_h2wd9RcexA. | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 16:21 | comment | added | Alistair Riddoch | I like to do that... imagining a human baby, born on an island that luckily has no threats/risks, and luckily somehow without other humans, supplies all the babies physical needs... thinking what opinion it would have about things... the blank slate. Verus a baby brought up in society. | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 16:16 | history | edited | Alistair Riddoch | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 27, 2024 at 16:12 | comment | added | SystemTheory | Any author in social psychology, and there are many, could go into the blanks. I read original Freud: The Ego and the Id; Civilization and Its Discontents. I read the paper by Maslow concerning the description of needs. Freud is more insightful. Why? He begins at the origin with the helpless newborn ego. Maslow's theory should be revised to assert that newborn human ego needs are inherently social needs. I discovered the early life needs after my sociology teacher in high school said, "Humans learn animals have instincts." Fish eggs hatch in 10s of 1000s with no parents. Mammal ego is social. | |
| Apr 27, 2024 at 16:02 | history | asked | Alistair Riddoch | CC BY-SA 4.0 |