Canadian hosting services offering dedicated servers

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thermalmusic's picture

Hi,

Can anyone recommend any good reliable Canadian hosting services offering dedicated servers? This is for an organization site in Toronto with many recurring paid memberships, requiring various scripted forms and other functions.

Thanks,
Steven

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Vexxhost

colan's picture

If you really want hardware without anybody else on it, try Vexxhost's Private Cloud. They run OpenStack and are Canadian.

We're currently in the process of switching all of our stuff over to their Public Cloud, and are really impressed. They offer some services that other OpenStack providers don't, like DNSaaS, which is really nice because you can automate your DNS entries with code (e.g. Terraform).

I'll have to check out

cleaver's picture

I'll have to check out Vexxhost. I don't remember hearing about them before. Another option is OVH. They have some dedicated options in Canadian datacentres.

Don't use OVH

colan's picture

OVH isn't Canadian; it's based out of France.

In any case, here's why I'd recommend avoiding them. They were the first Canadian OpenStack shop I tried:

  • They're not really running OpenStack anymore. It's a fork because they can't sync with upstream. They took down a blog post explaining this, but it's in the archive: OpenStack: The Issue of Staying Close to the Upstream Production Code and Pushing Code Back to the Community.
  • When spinning up a VM (or "instance" in OpenStack-speak), it gets a public IP address, and there's no way to turn this off. Best practice (and core OpenStack) dictate that public IP addresses should be opt-in for security.
  • My private network went down, making it unusable, and it took them a month to get it back up.

Good to know. There's not

cleaver's picture

Good to know. There's not that many choices when it comes to Canadian datacentres with dedicated hardware.

A long time ago (>15 years), I've shipped preconfigured servers for colocation. Not sure if that's even possible today, but it may be an alternative.

I'm not clear how the issue

adixon's picture

I'm not clear how the issue of openstack came up, that wasn't part of the question, was it?

But more generally, you want to pay attention to some of the defaults at OVH when you're getting a server, they provide some sometimes-funky customizations. There are non-obvious ways of avoiding them that you can find with the help of google.

I don't run open stack and have been using them for about 4 years without any network issues.

I do like their portable ips and the (somewhat basic) appliance-type firewall that comes with every server.

OpenStack

colan's picture

It wasn't part of the question, but I'm providing that as my recommendation because your IaC is portable across hosting companies so you're not locking your client into a specific vendor. It's an open source IaaS. So if you like Drupal because it's open source, you should like OpenStack because it's open source.

My point with OVH was that there may be problems because they're running an unmergeable fork.

I don't run open stack and have been using them for about 4 years without any network issues.

Except that you are, kind of, if you're using OVH.

Canadian providers

thermalmusic's picture

Thanks for the suggestions. The client isn't stuck on having a dedicated server, could be a good VPS instead. They want to support a Canadian business.

Has anyone checked out Web hosting Canada (wha.ca) or Canadianwebhosting.com? They seem to have some good offerings and data centers located in Canada.

What about using dedicated IPs instead of shared, since the client will be running 2 sites?

I get most of my dedicated

adixon's picture

I get most of my dedicated servers from OVH and would recommend them for price and being generally reliable.

They aren't Canadian, but they provide servers in Canada. But are sure you want a dedicated server? And what does "Canadian" mean? The binary simplicity of dedicated vs. shared is no longer a thing and "Canadian" is largely an advertising construct when it comes to "servers".

If the concern is about legal issues of physical location of hosting, then most of the big cloud providers can ensure you're in Canada (but I don't recommend them either, for different reasons). But of course, legal issues are muddy because it sometimes matters where the 'owner' of the server is ...

This thread has brought out

cleaver's picture

This thread has brought out the old-timers. I'm having enough trouble remember what year this is. :)

This thread has brought out

jpw1116's picture

This thread has brought out the old-timers.

I resemble that comment!

OVH

kbahey's picture

Another old timer here ...

I've used OVH for a client some time ago (~ 8 years)? They were in Montreal and they selected the hosting company. It was dedicated servers (bare metal) only. The servers were fast and I had no issues at all with OVH's servers.

I can't speak to anything virtualized on OVH though, and last time I checked their site, I could not easily find plain VPS like I have used with Linode for 15+ years.

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From Julian

cleaver's picture

Anyone with admin access here? Julian (jegelstaff) contacted me directly and couldn't post. Here's his comment:

I was just going to mention I've had very good experiences with FullHost (fullhost.com) which has servers in Vancouver and Toronto. My experience is more with managed hosting, I don't do the server admin myself. But I'm sure they offer more stripped down equipment and you can run it how you like.

Hopefully someone here can fix his account.

That's you

colan's picture

According to the Group Organizers block on the right, you're one of them.

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