
Realities Remixed – the podcast series
From the award‑winning team behind Cloud Realities, Realities Remixed explores what happens when people, culture, industry, and technology collide, because real breakthroughs rarely come from technology alone.
In each episode, hosts Dave Chapman, Esmee van de Giessen, and Rob Kernahan dig beneath the surface of innovation to understand what’s truly shifting. They speak with leaders, practitioners, vendors and thinkers across industries to explore how technology reshapes human behaviour, organisational culture, and society, for better and sometimes for worse.
This week’s podcast
Our hosts
Together, Dave, Esmee and Rob have over 70 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides through a new reality each week.

Dave Chapman
Vice President, Cloud Evangelist
Vice President, Cloud Evangelist and Influencer with 25 years’ experience as CIO, CTO and transformation leader, driving strategy, enterprise transformation, and executive technology programs. Host of Realities Remixed, shaping thought leadership at the intersection of cloud, digital innovation, and industry transformation.

Esmee van de Giessen
Principal Consultant Enterprise Transformation and meaningful change.
Principal Consultant Enterprise Transformation Capgemini, specializing in transformation, leadership, and organizational development. Co‑host of Realities Remixed, passionate about unlocking team potential, culture and meaningful change.

Rob Kernahan
Vice President Chief Architect for Cloud
Vice President Chief Architect for Cloud, driving cloud, sovereignty, and go‑to‑market leadership across regions. Co‑host of Realities Remixed, bringing strategic insight on digital platforms and enterprise transformation.
Dave Chapman
VP Cloud Evangelist at Capgemini
Esmee van de Giessen
Strategic Partner Manager, Capgemini
Rob Kernahan
Chief Architect for Cloud and a Global SME on Cloud Technology, Data and IT Operating Models
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Season 6
Episode 209 – RR014 The world is on fast-forward but leadership isn’t with Dex Hunter-Torricke, The Center for Tomorrow | May 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
Today’s most pressing challenges arise from the collision of rapid technological change with deepening economic inequality, weakening democratic systems, geopolitical instability and accelerating climate pressure, leaving world leaders wrestling with how to govern and solve these deeply interconnected crises.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob are joined by Dex Hunter-Torricket, Founder & President The Center for Tomorrow to explore how tech can solve world macro issues.
TLDR:
- 00:33 – Introduction
- 00:40 – Hang out: The Boys on Amazon Prime final episode (spoilers)
- 06:02 – Dig in: How to solve world macro issues?
- 07:45 – Conversation with Dex Hunter-Torricke
- 44:52 – Writing a book and meeting world leaders
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Episode 208 – RR013 Starting your own AI company with Gijs van de Nieuwegiessen and Tijn van Daelen, One Horizon AI | May 2026
Starting an AI company is all about spotting a real problem and using AI to solve it in a smarter, faster way than what’s out there today. It’s less about having the perfect idea and more about starting focused, learning fast, and building something people actually want.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Gijs van de Nieuwegiessen and Tijn van Daelen, founders of One Horizon AI, to explore what it really takes to start and build an AI‑native company.
TLDR:
- 00:32 – Introduction
- 00:55 – Hang out: Why Dutch names can be a real tongue-twister
- 02:00 – Dig in: Exploring how an AI-native culture fits with human-to-human interaction
- 13:35 – Deep dive with Gijs van de Nieuwegiessen and Tijn van Daelen
- 1:01:54 – Following AI: Bloopers, reflections, and field hockey with the kids
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Episode 207 – RR012 How Open Source is powering AI with Richard Harmond, Red Hat | May 2026
Open Source is giving AI a real boost, making it easier and faster for organisations to build and experiment with new ideas. As adoption grows, these open ecosystems are helping businesses move quicker, stay flexible, and unlock value with more confidence.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Richard Harmon, VP & Global Head of Financial Services at Red Hat to explore how Open Source is shaping AI, from mainframes to Kubernetes, and from regulation and sovereignty to a future of AI agents writing code.
TLDR:
- 00:25 – Introduction
- 00:52 – Hangout: Deep democracy training and “what instrument are you?”
- 03:19 – Dig in: Open‑source culture and AI, do they complement each other?
- 10:02 – Conversation with Richard Harmon
- 51:12 – Sitting in the chair and trying to keep up with AI
Guest:
Episode 206 – RR011: ServiceNow Knowledge 2026: SaaSpocalypse and the CRM Paradigm Shift with Hannah Datz at ServiceNow | May 2026
The SaaSpocalypse marks the end of traditional CRM with manual data entry, rigid interfaces, and seat‑based software no longer make sense in an AI‑driven world. Success now depends on outcome‑focused plumbing: intelligent orchestration that delivers results, not screens.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Hannah Datz, Americas Vice President of CRM at ServiceNow, to unpack the major announcements from ServiceNow Knowledge 2026 in Las Vegas and explore how AI is accelerating the SaaSpocalypse and driving a fundamental shift in the future of CRM.
TLDR:
- 00:34 – Introduction
- 00:54 – Hang out: Happy Password Day and emerging threats
- 06:46 – Conversation with Hannah Datz
- 57:20 – From tennis excitement to the best burger ever
Guest:
Episode 205 – RR010: The big data unlock for AI with Edward Calvesbert, IBM | April 2026
AI is only as strong as the data beneath it, and as it moves into the core of the enterprise, fragmented, duplicated, and poorly governed data is no longer hidden in the background, it’s amplified, exposed, and impossible to ignore.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Edward Calvesbert, VP Product Management for IBM watsonx AI & Data Platform, to dig into the foundations of enterprise AI, from data silos and the SaaSpocalypse to lakehouse architectures and agent‑driven workflows.
TLDR:
- 00:17 – Introduction
- 00:55 – Dig in: The big data unlock for AI
- 14:02 – Conversation with Edward Calvesbert
- 57:58 – Hiking Mount Rainier near Seattle
Guest:
Episode 204 – RRLIVE06: Team reflections on Google Cloud Next 2026 | April 2026
Las Vegas, you’re officially on the record during Google Cloud Next 2026.
The #RealitiesRemixed podcast team is back at GCN’26, recording live from the Strip, where bright lights collide with big ideas.
This week, we’re swapping roulette wheels for real talk, hosting live conversations with Google leaders who are redefining what’s next across AI‑first enterprise transformation, agentic AI, data, sovereignty, security, and beyond.
Expect sharp insights, bold opinions, and future‑shaping conversations, delivered straight from Las Vegas to your headphones.
Dave, Rachel, and Rob discuss the highlights of Google Cloud Next 2026!
TLDR
- 00:24 – Introduction
- 01:14 – Hang out: Progress from Google Cloud Next 2025 to Google Cloud Next 2026
- 08:15 – Dig in: Executive overview of this year’s key themes
- 31:38 – Closing remarks
Special Host
Episode 203 – RRLIVE05: Google Cloud Next 2026, Engineering with AI with Cliff Krimmel, Google Cloud | April 2026
Las Vegas, you’re officially on the record during Google Cloud Next 2026.
The #RealitiesRemixed podcast team is back at GCN’26, recording live from the Strip, where bright lights collide with big ideas.
This week, we’re swapping roulette wheels for real talk, hosting live conversations with Google leaders who are redefining what’s next across AI‑first enterprise transformation, agentic AI, data, sovereignty, security, and beyond.
Expect sharp insights, bold opinions, and future‑shaping conversations, delivered straight from Las Vegas to your headphones.
Dave, Rachel, and Rob close out their conversation with Cliff Krimmel, Head of Customer Engineering for Banking at Google Cloud, diving into the changing stack and the rise of the agentic development platform.
TLDR
- 00:32 – Day 3 kicks off
- 01:25 – Hang out: Travel-ready tips
- 05:18 – Dig in: The Agentic Data Cloud
- 09:00 – Conversation with Cliff Krimmel
- 32:05 – Closing with burgers & hotdogs
Guest
Special Host
Episode 202 – RRLIVE04: Google Cloud Next 2026, The Rise of Creative AI with Khulan Davaajav, Google Cloud | April 2026
Las Vegas, you’re officially on the record during Google Cloud Next 2026.
The #RealitiesRemixed podcast team is back at GCN’26, recording live from the Strip, where bright lights collide with big ideas.
This week, we’re swapping roulette wheels for real talk, hosting live conversations with Google leaders who are redefining what’s next across AI‑first enterprise transformation, agentic AI, data, sovereignty, security, and beyond.
Expect sharp insights, bold opinions, and future‑shaping conversations, delivered straight from Las Vegas to your headphones.
Dave, Rachel, and Rob continue their conversation with Khulan Davaajav, Product Marketing Manager, Generative Media Models at Google about the rise of creative AI and how it’s redefining human expression in the age of intelligent tools.
TLDR
- 00:24 – Day 2 on it’s way!
- 00:40 – Hangout: Producer distracted and Rob’s red eye
- 03:31 – Highlights: Roving reporter’s media related announcements
- 07:16 – Conversation with Khulan Davaajav
- 34:24– Mongolian BBQ
Guest
Special Host
Episode 201 – RRLIVE03: Google Cloud Next 2026, Accelerating Agentic Journeys with Gina Fratarcangeli, Google Cloud | April 2026
Las Vegas, you’re officially on the record during Google Cloud Next 2026.
The #RealitiesRemixed podcast team is back at GCN’26, recording live from the Strip, where bright lights collide with big ideas.
This week, we’re swapping roulette wheels for real talk, hosting live conversations with Google leaders who are redefining what’s next across AI‑first enterprise transformation, agentic AI, data, sovereignty, security, and beyond.
Expect sharp insights, bold opinions, and future‑shaping conversations, delivered straight from Las Vegas to your headphones.
Dave, Rachel, and Rob continue their conversation with Gina Fratarcangeli, Managing Director and NA GSI Leader, exploring how partners are redefining their role, from funding models and board‑level conversations to shaping the agentic enterprise blueprint.
TLDR
- 00:24 – Day 2 kicks off!
- 00:40 – Hangout: impressions from GCN ’26 at the Mandalay Bay Convention Center and Dave denting his stuff
- 05:26 – Dig in: What announcements our roving reporter spotted
- 09:54 – Conversation with Gina Fratarcangeli
- 32:41 – Texas brisket on paper BBQ
Guest
Special Host
Episode 200 – RRLIVE02: Google Cloud Next 2026, Optionality is the new sovereignty with Dominic Cody, Google Cloud | April 2026
Las Vegas, you’re officially on the record during Google Cloud Next 2026.
The #RealitiesRemixed podcast team is back at GCN’26, recording live from the Strip, where bright lights collide with big ideas.
This week, we’re swapping roulette wheels for real talk, hosting live conversations with Google leaders who are redefining what’s next across AI‑first enterprise transformation, agentic AI, data, sovereignty, security, and beyond.
Expect sharp insights, bold opinions, and future‑shaping conversations, delivered straight from Las Vegas to your headphones.
Dave, Rachel, and Rob continue the conversation with Dominic Cody, Global Director of Technology, Distributed Cloud, about the Sovereign Edge and reclaiming control in the age of Agentic AI.
TLDR:
- 00:24 – Guest introduction and this week’s key themes
- 00:40 – Hangout: AI on the Expo floorand roving reporter Rachel Belmonte
- 01:24– Dig in: what to expect from Google’s announcements
- 05:36– Conversation with Dominic Cody
- 31:28 – Favourite BBQ picks
Guest:
Special Hosts:
Episode 199 – RRLIVE01: Google Cloud Next 2026, The rise of Agentic commerce with Mark Steel, Google Cloud | April 2026
Las Vegas, you’re officially on the record during Google Cloud Next 2026.
The #RealitiesRemixed podcast team is back at GCN’26, recording live from the Strip, where bright lights collide with big ideas.
This week, we’re swapping roulette wheels for real talk, hosting live conversations with Google leaders who are redefining what’s next across AI‑first enterprise transformation, agentic AI, data, sovereignty, security, and beyond.
Expect sharp insights, bold opinions, and future‑shaping conversations, delivered straight from Las Vegas to your headphones.
Dave, Rachel, and Rob kick off the event with Mark Steel, Director of Retail Industry, EMEA at Google Cloud, diving into the rise of Agentic Commerce and how AI agents are redefining the relationship between brands, retailers, and consumers.
TLDR:
- 00:24 – Guest introduction and this week’s key themes
- 00:52 – Hangout: new podcast equipment and roving reporter Rachel Belmonte
- 05:52 – Dig in: what to expect from Google’s announcements
- 11:41 – Conversation with Mark Steel
- 39:10 – Favourite BBQ picks
Guest:
Special Hosts:
Episode 198 – RR009 Leading in the Never Normal with Peter Hinssen | April 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
As AI accelerates the shift from networks to ecosystems, organisations face a growing tension between fast‑moving technology and slower, socially driven organisational change. Success in the “Never Normal” will depend less on intelligence itself and more on leadership qualities, judgement, narrative, trust, and the ability to create space for corporate explorers to build the Day After Tomorrow, not just optimise today.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Peter Hinssen, keynote speaker, author and lecturer and co-founder of nexxworks to explore how leaders navigating through rapid change, focused on transforming uncertainty into opportunities for growth and innovation..
TLDR:
- 00:41 – Guest introduction and overview of this week’s theme
- 01:02 – Hangout: Episode 200!
- 06:25 – Dig in: Deep dive into the pace of change
- 14:17 – Conversation with Peter Hinssen on adaptive organisations and leadership styles
- 55:10 – Continuing the conversation about Tech
- 1:11:20 – Travel to Taiwan, Silicon Valley, and China
Guest:
Episode 197 – RR008: Strategic leapfrogging in a disturbed world with Andre Loesekrug-Pietri, JEDI the European ARPA | April 2026
In an era where technological progress reshapes power, security, and prosperity at unprecedented speed, societies face a defining choice: adapt incrementally or reinvent boldly. How can breakthrough and disruptive technologies enable strategic leapfrogging, transforming long‑term ambition into real‑world impact amid a rapidly shifting global landscape.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Andre Loesekrug-Pietri, Chair and the Scientific Director of the Joint European Disruptive Initiative (JEDI, the European ARPA), to explore the ambition behind and what it would take for Europe to stop reacting to technological change and start shaping it.
TLDR:
- 00:30 – Guest introduction and overview of this week’s conversation
- 01:35 – Team Dig in: Is Europe falling behind on competitiveness?
- 13:52 – Conversation with Andre Loesekrug-Pietri
- 1:00:19 – Traveling to Japan with the French president
Guest:
- Andre Loeskrug-Petri
X: @eurojedi
www.jedi.foundation
Episode 196 – RR007: What if Moore’s Law is over? with AJ Guillon & Peter Richards, YetiWare | April 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly known as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
One of the most fundamental challenges in modern computing is the growing hardware–software mismatch. As Moore’s Law slows and performance gains no longer come “for free,” software built on Turing‑era, sequential assumptions struggles to keep pace with today’s highly parallel, heterogeneous hardware. That disconnect is now a central constraint on innovation.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Peter Richards, advisor and AJ Guillon, founder of YetiWare, to explore why this mismatch persists, what it means for organizations today, and how emerging approaches may redefine the relationship between software and hardware in the years ahead.
TLDR:
- 00:35 – Introduction
- 01:04 – Hang out: How deep can we go, and what is the history of the compute era?
- 07:00 – Dig in: The power demands of LLMs, data centers, scale, size and potato chips
- 15:35 – Conversation with Peter Richards and AJ Guillon
- 55:31 – Spring cleanup with a chainsaw and cycling
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Episode 195 – RR006: How leaders must adapt now to successfully scale AI, with Jana Werner and Phil Le-Brun, AWS | March 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly known as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
In a world defined by constant change, leaders must evolve from rigid hierarchies to emotionally intelligent, empowering leadership. By fostering adaptability, continuous learning, distributed leadership, and a culture of curiosity, organisations become better equipped to navigate technological disruptions, such as AI, with resilience and innovation.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Jana Werner and Phil Le-Brun, Executives in Residence at AWS to explore what it really takes for organisations to thrive in a world of continuous transformation, and why rigid hierarchies, control, and over-designed change programmes so often get in the way.
TLDR:
- 00:42 – Guest introduction and overview of this week’s theme
- 01:26 – Team dig-in: A new cycle of change is on it’s way
- 19:27 – In‑depth conversation with Jana and Phil
- 57:37 – Octopus playlist and case study highlights
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Episode 194 – RR005: Value metrics vs vanity metrics with Carlos Corredor, Condor | March 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
Technology and AI are rapidly transforming marketing, challenging old assumptions and shifting the focus toward analytics‑driven precision, smarter segmentation, and multimodal content. As attention becomes harder to capture and creative workflows evolve, the real advantage lies in adapting for an AI‑first environment, especially by rethinking overlooked segments like the mid‑market and being far more specific in strategy and execution.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Carlos Corredor, founder and CEO of Condor, to discuss the difference between value metrics and vanity metrics in modern marketing and why many organisations still struggle to connect marketing activity to real business results.
TLDR:
- 00:32 – Introduction
- 00:59 – Hang out: Staying healthy
- 06:10 – Dig in: The valuable to measure with metrics
- 17:52 – Conversation with Carlos Corredor
- 47:15 – Looking ahead to the World Cup football
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Episode 193 – RR004: The trust gap with Dr. Tim Currie, Author | March 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
After years of remote‑first work built on swift trust, companies are asking a harder question: what does a organization really stand for when people rarely show up together? As AI accelerates change, leaders are rethinking presence, team design, and collaboration to fuel trust, innovation, and growth.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Dr. Tim Currie, disruptor, author, innovator, and advisor, to examine transformation versus trust, the role of AI, and whether organisations can truly build culture without deeper human connection.
TLDR:
- 00:42– Introduction
- 01:10 – Hang out: New film releases
- 07:17 – Dig in: The trust gap in remote work
- 17:57 – Conversation with Dr. Tim Currie
- 54:07 – The Wizard of Oz at the Sphere in Las Vegas and staying connected
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Episode 192 – RR003: Messaging the future with Kathleen Tandy, Meta | March 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech.
Business messaging is transforming customer engagement by enabling brands to move conversations into familiar, always‑on messaging platforms. The result for customers is greater convenience, quicker resolutions, and more meaningful, personalized interactions.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Kathleen Tandy, Global Director and Head of Business Messaging Marketing and WhatsApp for Business at Meta, to explore how companies are using messaging platforms to engage customers, what customers expect from these experiences, and the challenges of scaling messaging in tech.
TLDR:
- 00:35 – Introduction
- 01:00 – Hang out: The new Remarkable
- 05:25 – Dig in: Using messaging to enhance customer experiences
- 20:49 – Conversation with Kathleen Tandy
- 55:26 – The passion for college football and championship weekend!
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Episode 191 – RR002: The business – tech divide with John Koerwer, UGI Corporation | February 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry, and tech.
Energy transportation is a deeply local business, safely delivering gas and electricity, more and more from renewable sources, directly to the communities it serves. Technology and AI help make that possible by strengthening safety, bringing companies closer to customers, and enabling teams to build the future together.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by John Koerwer, CIO of UGI Corporation, to explore explore why “the business” and tech still struggle to speak the same language, nd what helps close the gap.
TLDR:
- 00:35 – Introduction
- 01:17 – Hang out: new toys and coffee
- 07:55 – Dig in: the business – tech divide
- 21:07 – Conversation with John Koerwer
- 59:40 – The amazing AI technology in The Sphere’s version of The Wizard of Oz
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Episode 190 – RR001: This is Realities Remixed & big trends for 2026 | February 2026
Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, technology, and society. Hosts Dave Chapman, Esmee van de Giessen, and Rob Kernahan unpack 2026’s defining trends, from AI and sovereignty to adaptability and automation, offering fresh insight, candid reflections, and forward‑looking conversations shaping the year ahead.
TLDR:
- 00:20 – Introduction of Realities Remixed
- 02:30 – Why the show evolved?
- 04:50 – Dig in with the team: Predictions for 2026
- 06:40 – Macro trends
- 13:00 – Sovereignty
- 17:40 – Agentic AI
- 22:17 – Human–AI interaction
- 26:06 – Cloud trends
- 30:42 – AI scaling, domain‑specific models
- 35:03 – Adoption lag
- 39:34 – Physical AI
- 43:47 – Quantum computing
- 48:21 – Hardware acceleration
- 50:30 – Cybersecurity
- 52:38 – Season outlook
Episode 189 – RR000: Coming soon! | February 2026
On Cloud Realities, the real insight rarely came from technology alone, it emerged at the intersection of People, Culture, Industry, and Technology. In the remix we bring back familiar voices and topics while going deeper into the wider impacts, influence, and potential of today’s tech across society.
The 2026 season trailer, arriving a little later than planned, opens with this renewed focus and sets the stage for Episode 1, launching on February 19. Here’s a quick trailer to get you ready!
TLDR:
- 00:11 The emergence of insight from Cloud Realities
- 01:00 Where the magic happens
- 01:42 The real impact on People, Culture, Industry and Tech
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Credits
In addition to the hosts, thanks also go to Marcel Van Der Burg and Dave Chapman for production, and Ben Corbett and Louis Corbett for sound.









