Why not launch the X9s globally? They might as well scrape X9 and just do X9s and X9 Ultra.
jiyen235, 05 Apr 2026have you ever even used the s25 ultra and the x200 ultra?
I don't really want to make ... moreBuddy, I've got half a dozen phones at any given moment.
I've still got the X200 Ultra, along with Oppo X9 pro, S25 Edge, S26 Ultra, Z Fold 7 and iPhone 17 pro.
I've only still got the X200 Ultra because I can't get rid of it for a decent price. No one wants to buy that crap. Resale value is atrocious.
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2026"I said the S26 Ultra has much better ergonomics than Chinese Ultra phones."
Whet... moreErgonomics are not debatable whatsoever. Chinese Ultra phones are an ergonomic nightmare. They're the heaviest of all Ultra phones, and have a huge stove-top on half the backside of the phone.
Neither is the S26 Ultra inferior to Chinese Ultra phones. The display is by faaaaaaaar better, with genuinely groundbreaking tech like AR coating and privacy display, the former which I cannot use a phone without anymore. Galaxy Ultra phones take miles better videos. Add on top of that dex, spen, a gazillion times better software and features...
vrvly, 03 Apr 2026Oppo didn't quite tame the 200mp sensor in their fold, let's see how Ultra fares.
... more"didn't quite tame the 200mp sensor in their fold"
Their 200mp sensor processing makes kind of worms and mushed areas"
That's because they used ISOCELL HP5 (also used in Find X9 Pro's telephoto camera), which has an opening that connects 4 pixels to improve the QE. This does indeed reduce light loss, but makes the pixels *far more* prone to crosstalk, which naturally results in significant loss in resolution. In fact its "200MP" mode is barely any better than its 50MP counterpart in terms of actual detail capturing because of this. Having a tiny 0.5µm pixel pitch doesn't help, either.
https://image.semiconductor.samsung.com/image/samsung/p6/semiconductor/image-sensor/mobile-image-sensor/isocell-hp5/hp5_f01_popup_pc.png
Find X9 Ultra's LYT-901 has none of these issues because the walls separate all 16 pixels within a single colour cluster as normal. It also features on-chip AI re/demosaicing for the full resolution output to reduce typical wormy artifacts.
TheAlienNextDoor, 04 Apr 2026No they're not.
The X200 Ultra is much heavier. Size and weight are by far the the most ... morehave you ever even used the s25 ultra and the x200 ultra?
I don't really want to make a long post explaining it, if you've never even held a samsung flagship and the vivo one.
YUKI93, 04 Apr 2026It's somewhat intriguing to see the smaller X9s Pro has dual 200MP camera setup compared ... moreDon't just look at mpx account, that 200mp sensor is going to be smaller and inferior
TheAlienNextDoor, 04 Apr 2026I never said I want anything, or that the S26 Ultra has the best ergonomics.
No idea where yo... more"I said the S26 Ultra has much better ergonomics than Chinese Ultra phones."
Whether the S26 Ultra has better ergonomics than Chinese Ultra phones is debatable. What isn't debatable that the S26 Ultra is inferior to the Chinese Ultra phones in most aspects including display, cameras, battery life and charging speed.
It's somewhat intriguing to see the smaller X9s Pro has dual 200MP camera setup compared to the much larger X9 Pro with a 50MP and 200MP camera setup.
jiyen235, 04 Apr 2026the x200 ultra and s24 ultra are uncomfortable in different ways
compared to the s24 ultra ... moreNo they're not.
The X200 Ultra is much heavier. Size and weight are by far the the most important factors for ergonomics.
Also, the camera stove on the back makes the X200 Ultra a nightmare to use.
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2026If you just want a smaller phone that you claim is ergonomically better, you should not be loo... moreI never said I want anything, or that the S26 Ultra has the best ergonomics.
No idea where you get that from. Learn to read?
I said the S26 Ultra has much better ergonomics than Chinese Ultra phones. It's not even close to being half as ergonomic as the base Galaxy S.
What I want? I'd like the base Galaxy S, but with the Ultra cameras and display and charging speed. Ain't gonna happen though.
mat9v, 03 Apr 2026That's not ergonomics, that's preference, or maybe ability - you can have small hand... moreLiking something doesn't make it easier to use.
You can like the idea of using a tablet as a phone, and I've actually seen people do that, but that doesn't turn your hands into shovels.
Weight is also not subjective. You might like the feel of a heavy phone but your hands and fingers will tire faster and sooner without exception, and your trousers will sag more easily. It's physics, it's not feelings.
Again, you're spouting nonsense. Samsung's ultra phones are objectively more ergonomic than Chinese phones. They are lighter and easier to hold in your hands. People with longer fingers can't rest them under the behemoth camera island because they have to curl them up. Not to mention how not having a secure grip is a problem the phone itself creates BECAUSE it has that massive island. It makes the phone top heavy amongst other things.
And don't even get me started on software and Chinese iOS copy-cat garbage.
Fantomas, 04 Apr 2026why did you sell your Vivo X300? What is in S25 that you find better than in X300?Weight, size, and maybe routines. Mostly the first 2 and I have a 10g aramid fiber case on it.
I was holding on to a 13 mini for ages but cannot stand iOS any longer.
TheAlienNextDoor, 04 Apr 2026Most people just slap a case on their phone and all the ergonomics of the phone are covered
... morethe x200 ultra and s24 ultra are uncomfortable in different ways
compared to the s24 ultra i find the x200u comfy. The S25U and X200U are about on par though.
TheAlienNextDoor, 04 Apr 2026Most people just slap a case on their phone and all the ergonomics of the phone are covered
... moreIf you just want a smaller phone that you claim is ergonomically better, you should not be looking at the Pro Max or Ultra variants. They're bigger and heavier than what you are looking for.
Which phones these days have a curved back? Definitely not the S26 Ultra that you claim to have the best ergonomics. It is the heaviest most squarish and angler you can buy. The ergonomics of that phone is rubbish. All you did was make the baseless claim it has better ergonomics without stating exactly what's better about it.
logiatype, 03 Apr 2026Samsung S25 base. Compared it against the S26. Sold my Vivo X300.why did you sell your Vivo X300? What is in S25 that you find better than in X300?
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2026Will X9s release globaly (EU or AMER)? If not, I will just go ahead and buy Xiaomi 17, as I d... moreVivo 300 Pro
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2026Most people just slap a case on their phone and all the ergonomics of the phone are covered by... moreMost people just slap a case on their phone and all the ergonomics of the phone are covered
Emmm, no they're not.
You slap a case on a huge slab phone just as you do on a smaller one. And while the smaller one might be less ergonomic with a case, the large slab becomes an unwieldy behemoth with a case. Hell, even if you didnt put a case on the large slab phone, the small phone with a case is still more ergonomic.
Of course there are differences in ergonomics. Do I need to draw it for you? A curved backside (not display) is more ergonomic. Rounded corners are more ergonomic. And by far the most important aspects: size and weight.
Almost no one likes heavier phones. We buy them because we want the features (not need) and want to stand out. It all depends on how much of a compromise you are willing to make. The S26 Ultra for example is miles better than the S24 ultra, now having rounded corners, being thinner and lighter, but still doesnt come close to the base S26...which in turn pales in comparison to the now ancient S7. But even the S24 Ultra is miles better than the ergonomic nightmare of Chinese Ultra phones like the Vivo X200 ultra.
I'm just curious. Do they really think someone is so excited that we will be checking their camera bumps?
TheAlienNextDoor, 03 Apr 2026The number one metric, by a huge and wide margin, when it comes to phones is ergonomics. Whil... moreMost people just slap a case on their phone and all the ergonomics of the phone are covered by the case. Anyway, what difference in ergonomics are there in a slab phone? Curved display phones will always have better ergonomics by contouring to the grip of the hands. If you're going to discuss weight, iPhones and Samsung Galaxy Ultras are always the heavier phones and I don't know why you'd buy them if you don't like heavy phones.
Will X9s release globaly (EU or AMER)?
If not, I will just go ahead and buy Xiaomi 17, as I don't see any