Improving LLM Training for Niche Applications

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Improving LLM training for niche applications means finding smarter ways to help large language models (LLMs) learn specialized skills or knowledge, making them more reliable for complex, domain-specific tasks. This involves moving beyond basic memorization to teaching models how to reason, apply information, and adapt to unique workflows.

  • Prioritize reasoning steps: Focus on training models to break down problems and improve their decision-making at each stage rather than just aiming for the correct final answer.
  • Use diverse data strategies: Mix approaches like retrieval augmentation, synthetic data generation, and active reading to build robust, context-aware training datasets that support better learning and retention.
  • Maintain rigorous evaluation: Set up thorough test pipelines and feedback loops to monitor accuracy, bias, and reliability, ensuring the model consistently meets domain-specific needs.
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  • View profile for Sohrab Rahimi

    Director, AI/ML Lead @ Google

    23,842 followers

    One of the biggest barriers to deploying LLM-based agents in real workflows is their poor performance on long-horizon reasoning. Agents often generate coherent short responses but struggle when a task requires planning, tool use, or multi-step decision-making. The issue is not just accuracy at the end, but the inability to reason through the middle. Without knowing which intermediate steps helped or hurt, agents cannot learn to improve. This makes long-horizon reasoning one of the hardest and most unsolved problems for LLM generalization. It is relatively easy for a model to retrieve a document, answer a factual question, or summarize a short email. It is much harder to solve a billing dispute that requires searching, interpreting policy rules, applying edge cases, and adjusting the recommendation based on prior steps. Today’s agents can generate answers, but they often fail to reflect, backtrack, or reconsider earlier assumptions. A new paper from Google DeepMind and Stanford addresses this gap with a method called SWiRL: Step-Wise Reinforcement Learning. Rather than training a model to get the final answer right, SWiRL trains the model to improve each step in a reasoning chain. It does this by generating synthetic multi-step problem-solving traces, scoring every individual step using a reward model (Gemini 1.5 Pro), and fine-tuning the base model to favor higher-quality intermediate steps. This approach fundamentally changes the way we train reasoning agents. Instead of optimizing for final outcomes, the model is updated based on how good each reasoning step was in context. For example, if the model generates a search query or a math step that is useful, even if the final answer is wrong, that step is rewarded and reinforced. Over time, the agent learns not just to answer, but to reason more reliably. This is a major departure from standard RLHF, which only gives feedback at the end. SWiRL improves performance by 9.2 percent on HotPotQA, 16.9 percent on GSM8K when trained on HotPotQA, and 11 to 15 percent on other multi-hop and math datasets like MuSiQue, BeerQA, and CofCA. It generalizes across domains, works without golden labels, and outperforms both supervised fine-tuning and single-step RL methods. The implications are substantial: we can now train models to reason better by scoring and optimizing their intermediate steps. Better reward models, iterative reflection, tool-assisted reasoning, and trajectory-level training will lead to more robust performance in multi-step tasks. This is not about mere performance improvement. It shows how we can begin to train agents not to mimic outputs, but to improve the quality of their thought process. That’s essential if we want to build agents that work through problems, adapt to new tasks, and operate autonomously in open-ended environments.

  • View profile for Elvis S.

    Founder at DAIR.AI | Angel Investor | Advisor | Prev: Meta AI, Galactica LLM, Elastic, Ph.D. | Serving 7M+ learners around the world

    86,482 followers

    Retrieval-Augmented Reasoning Modeling Introduces RARE, a new paradigm for training domain-specific LLMs that focuses on reasoning, not memorization. Key ideas: • Inspired by Bloom’s Taxonomy – RARE shifts LLM training from memorizing knowledge (“Remember”) to applying and evaluating it (“Analyze”, “Create”). It separates domain knowledge (retrieved externally) from domain thinking (learned during training), enabling better performance under tight parameter budgets. • Open-book prepared training – RARE injects retrieved knowledge into training prompts, letting models learn reasoning patterns instead of rote facts. This open-book, reasoning-first setup beats both standard SFT and RAG approaches, especially in medicine. • Massive accuracy gains with small models – On five medical QA benchmarks, RARE-trained Llama-3.1-8B and Qwen-2.5-7B outperformed GPT-4 + RAG, with up to +20% accuracy boosts (e.g., PubMedQA: 78.63% vs. GPT-4’s 75.2%, CoVERT: 74.14% vs. GPT-4’s 65.67%). • Training via distillation + adaptive retries – RARE distills answers (and reasoning paths) from a strong teacher (e.g., QwQ-32B), refining outputs until a correct answer is found. This creates a high-quality dataset that teaches contextualized, case-based thinking. • New role for retrieval – Unlike standard RAG (used only at inference), RARE uses retrieval during training to shape reasoning. It models knowledge integration (p(k|x, R(x))) and reasoning (p(r|x, R(x), k)) as separate steps, replacing memorization with application. Overall, this work reframes LLM training for domain-specific intelligence: externalize facts, internalize reasoning. It unlocks strong performance from small models without overfitting or hallucination.

  • View profile for Max Buckley

    Head of Knowledge Research at Exa

    32,013 followers

    Fine-tuning for making expert, domain-specific models? Not so fast! I often get asked whether companies should fine-tune LLMs to internalize the knowledge required for their particular use case or domain. The answer I give is probably not…. There is research suggesting that large language models struggle to acquire new factual knowledge through fine-tuning. Novel knowledge is learned more slowly than knowledge consistent with what the model already knows. This same research also showed that when knowledge is eventually learned from novel examples, there is a linear increase in the model's tendency to hallucinate. Ouch! So what can you do? What should you do? RAG is one approach, but that comes with complexity and its own challenges: RAG pipelines are more complex, with larger storage costs, higher memory and compute requirements (due to longer contexts demanded by the additional context) and higher latency, due to the need to query an external index. In the long term, storing knowledge natively in the model's parameters may also provide generalization advantages, as the model can relate different pieces of knowledge in its parameters. This is particularly apparent for complex or indirect queries, where simple retrieval augmentation may fall short. A very exciting recent paper from Meta introduced a new approach called Active Reading. This approach leverages synthetic data to have LLMs generate a range of diverse training data based on a closed body of knowledge. By having the LLMs read and restructure the data in many and varied ways and training on that enlarged, restructured corpus, you can significantly improve the model's retention of the contained facts. Active Reading applies the same principles observed in human studying, allowing the model itself to propose multiple study strategies — e.g., paraphrasing, knowledge linking, active recall, etc. — and instantiates these different strategies on a document-by-document basis. This process results in a highly diverse and contextually grounded signal which can then be trained on. The authors demonstrate huge gains vs. vanilla fine-tuning: +313% and +160% (relative improvement over vanilla fine-tuning) on SimpleQA and FinanceBench respectively. They also trained a SOTA 8B model for factual QA, demonstrating the utility of the technique at pre-training scale (1T tokens). It should be noted that the Active Reading paper focuses on knowledge acquisition; that traditional fine tuning can still be useful for instilling style, format, reasoning patterns, or other behaviors. Learning Facts at Scale with Active Reading https://lnkd.in/e7FCAq-3 Does Fine-Tuning LLMs on New Knowledge Encourage Hallucinations? https://lnkd.in/e_REAVZB

  • View profile for Bala Selvam

    I make my own rules 100% of the time

    8,811 followers

    After about a year and a half working with LLMs I've seen a few tips on how to turn a commercial LLM into your in-house expert: my six-step playbook is below: 1️⃣ Pick the lightest customization that does the job: • Retrieval-Augmented Generation keeps the base model frozen and pipes in your own documents at run time. • Fine-tuning bakes stable expertise directly into the weights. • Hybrid approaches freeze what rarely changes and retrieve what does. 2️⃣ Obsess over data quality: Clean, permission-cleared text matters more than GPU hours. Redact PII, keep training chunks under two thousand tokens, and label a handful of gold-standard examples for every task. 3️⃣ Choose a training method that matches your budget: Full fine-tune for “mission-critical or bust,” Low-Rank Adaptation (LoRA) when you have one GPU and a deadline, instruction tuning for conversational agents, reinforcement learning if safety and tone need tight control. 4️⃣ Stand up an evaluation pipeline before launch: Automated test suites (DeepEval, RAGAs, MLflow Evaluate) score every new checkpoint for accuracy, relevance, bias, and hallucination. Treat prompts like code: unit-test them nightly. 5️⃣ Build guardrails in, not on: Add content filters, prompt-injection shields, and telemetry hooks that log inputs, outputs, and confidence scores. Compliance teams sleep better when monitoring is automatic. 6️⃣ Iterate in production: Canary releases send five percent of traffic to the new model and compare KPIs. Active-learning loops capture low-confidence answers and route them back into the next training batch. Schedule quarterly refreshes so improvement is routine, not heroic. Key takeaway: start with data and evaluation, layer on the lightest customization path that meets accuracy, and measure everything. Do that, and your “off-the-shelf” LLM will start speaking your organization’s language in record time. What’s your go-to tactic for customizing large language models? Drop it below so we can all learn faster. Thoughts?

  • View profile for Andrew Ng
    Andrew Ng Andrew Ng is an Influencer

    DeepLearning.AI, AI Fund and AI Aspire

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    Inexpensive token generation and agentic workflows for LLMs open up new possibilities for training LLMs on synthetic data. Pretraining an LLM on its own directly generated responses to prompts doesn't help. But if an agentic workflow implemented with the LLM results in higher quality output than the LLM can generate directly, then training on that output becomes potentially useful. Just as humans can learn from their own thinking, perhaps LLMs can, too. Imagine a math student learning to write mathematical proofs. By solving a few problems — even without external input — they can reflect on what works and learn to generate better proofs. LLM training involves (i) pretraining (learning from unlabeled text data to predict the next work) followed by (ii) instruction fine-tuning (learning to follow instructions) and (iii) RLHF/DPO to align to human values. Step (i) requires orders of magnitude more data than the others. For example, Llama 3 was pretrained on over 15 trillion tokens. LLM developers are still hungry for more data. Where can we get more text to train on? Many developers train smaller models on the output of larger models, so a smaller model learns to mimic a larger model’s behavior on a particular task. But an LLM can’t learn much by training on data it generated directly. Indeed, training a model repeatedly on the output of an earlier version of itself can result in model collapse. But, an LLM wrapped in an agentic workflow can produce higher-quality output than it can generate directly. This output might be useful as pretraining data. Efforts like these have precedents: - When using reinforcement learning to play a game like chess, a model might learn a function that evaluates board positions. If we apply game tree search along with a low-accuracy evaluation function, the model can come up with more accurate evaluations. Then we can train that evaluation function to mimic these more accurate values. - During alignment, Anthropic’s constitutional AI uses RLAIF (RL from AI Feedback) to judge LLM output quality, substituting feedback generated by an AI model for human feedback. A significant barrier to using agentic workflows to produce LLM training data is the cost of generating tokens. Say we want to generate 1 trillion tokens to extend a pre-existing dataset. At current retail prices, 1 trillion tokens from GPT-4-turbo ($30 per million output tokens), Claude 3 Opus ($75), Gemini 1.5 Pro ($21), and Llama-3-70B on Groq ($0.79) would cost, respectively, $30M, $75M, $21M and $790K. Of course, an agentic workflow would require generating more than one token per final output token. But budgets for training cutting-edge LLMs easily surpass $100M, so spending a few million dollars more for data to boost performance is feasible. That’s why agentic workflows might opening up new opportunities for high-quality synthetic data generation. [Original text: https://lnkd.in/gFF2AsZ9 ]

  • View profile for Brij Kishore Pandey
    Brij Kishore Pandey Brij Kishore Pandey is an Influencer

    AI Architect & AI Engineer | Building Agentic Systems & Scalable AI Solutions

    727,430 followers

    Training a Large Language Model (LLM) involves more than just scaling up data and compute. It requires a disciplined approach across multiple layers of the ML lifecycle to ensure performance, efficiency, safety, and adaptability. This visual framework outlines eight critical pillars necessary for successful LLM training, each with a defined workflow to guide implementation: 𝟭. 𝗛𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗤𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗗𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗖𝘂𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: Use diverse, clean, and domain-relevant datasets. Deduplicate, normalize, filter low-quality samples, and tokenize effectively before formatting for training. 𝟮. 𝗦𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗣𝗿𝗲𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴: Design efficient preprocessing pipelines—tokenization consistency, padding, caching, and batch streaming to GPU must be optimized for scale. 𝟯. 𝗠𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹 𝗔𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗗𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻: Select architectures based on task requirements. Configure embeddings, attention heads, and regularization, and then conduct mock tests to validate the architectural choices. 𝟰. 𝗧𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 and 𝗢𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗶𝘇𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: Ensure convergence using techniques such as FP16 precision, gradient clipping, batch size tuning, and adaptive learning rate scheduling. Loss monitoring and checkpointing are crucial for long-running processes. 𝟱. 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗽𝘂𝘁𝗲 & 𝗠𝗲𝗺𝗼𝗿𝘆 𝗢𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗶𝘇𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: Leverage distributed training, efficient attention mechanisms, and pipeline parallelism. Profile usage, compress checkpoints, and enable auto-resume for robustness. 𝟲. 𝗘𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 & 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: Regularly evaluate using defined metrics and baseline comparisons. Test with few-shot prompts, review model outputs, and track performance metrics to prevent drift and overfitting. 𝟳. 𝗘𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗦𝗮𝗳𝗲𝘁𝘆 𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝘀: Mitigate model risks by applying adversarial testing, output filtering, decoding constraints, and incorporating user feedback. Audit results to ensure responsible outputs. 🔸 𝟴. 𝗙𝗶𝗻𝗲-𝗧𝘂𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 & 𝗗𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗔𝗱𝗮𝗽𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: Adapt models for specific domains using techniques like LoRA/PEFT and controlled learning rates. Monitor overfitting, evaluate continuously, and deploy with confidence. These principles form a unified blueprint for building robust, efficient, and production-ready LLMs—whether training from scratch or adapting pre-trained models.

  • View profile for Aishwarya Srinivasan
    Aishwarya Srinivasan Aishwarya Srinivasan is an Influencer
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    If you’re building LLM applications today, reasoning is where the real leverage lies. And yet, I see a lot of engineers still treating LLM outputs as a single-shot black box. LLMs can reason, but only if you give them the right scaffolding and the right post-training. Here’s a mental model I’ve been using to think about LLM reasoning methods (see chart below): ✅ Inference-time reasoning methods: These are techniques that can be applied at inference time, without needing to retrain your model: → Tree of Thoughts (ToT), search through reasoning paths → Chain of Thought (CoT) prompting, prompt models to generate intermediate reasoning steps → Reasoning + Acting, use tools or function calls during reasoning → Self-feedback, prompt the model to critique and refine its own output → Episodic Memory Agents, maintain a memory buffer to improve multi-step reasoning → Self-consistency, sample multiple reasoning paths and select the most consistent answer ✅ Training-time enhancements: Where things get really powerful is when you post-train your model to improve reasoning, using human annotation or policy optimization: → Use Preference pairs and Reward Models to tune for better reasoning (RFT, Proximal PO, KL Regularization) → Apply RLHF, PPO + KL, Rejection Sampling + SFT, Advantage Estimation, and other advanced techniques to guide the model’s policy → Leverage multiple paths, offline trajectories, and expert demonstrations to expose the model to rich reasoning signals during training Here are my 2 cents 🫰 If you want production-grade LLM reasoning, you’ll need both, → Smart inference-time scaffolds to boost reasoning without slowing latency too much → Carefully tuned post-training loops to align the model’s policy with high-quality reasoning patterns → We’re also seeing increasing use of Direct Preference Optimization (DPO) and reference-free grading to further improve reasoning quality and stability. I’m seeing more and more teams combine both strategies, and the gap between "vanilla prompting" and "optimized reasoning loops" is only getting wider. 〰️〰️〰️ Follow me (Aishwarya Srinivasan) for more AI insight and subscribe to my Substack to find more in-depth blogs and weekly updates in AI: https://lnkd.in/dpBNr6Jg

  • View profile for Sahar Mor

    I help researchers and builders make sense of AI | ex-Stripe | aitidbits.ai | Angel Investor

    42,073 followers

    Researchers at UC San Diego and Tsinghua just solved a major challenge in making LLMs reliable for scientific tasks: knowing when to use tools versus solving problems directly. Their method, called Adapting While Learning (AWL), achieves this through a novel two-component training approach: (1) World knowledge distillation - the model learns to solve problems directly by studying tool-generated solutions (2) Tool usage adaptation - the model learns to intelligently switch to tools only for complex problems it can't solve reliably The results are impressive: * 28% improvement in answer accuracy across scientific domains * 14% increase in tool usage precision * Strong performance even with 80% noisy training data * Outperforms GPT-4 and Claude on custom scientific datasets Current approaches either make LLMs over-reliant on tools or prone to hallucinations when solving complex problems. This method mimics how human experts work - first assessing if they can solve a problem directly before deciding to use specialized tools. Paper https://lnkd.in/g37EK3-m — Join thousands of world-class researchers and engineers from Google, Stanford, OpenAI, and Meta staying ahead on AI http://aitidbits.ai

  • View profile for Asankhaya Sharma

    Creator of OptiLLM and OpenEvolve | Founder of Patched.Codes (YC S24) & Securade.ai | Pioneering inference-time compute to improve LLM reasoning | PhD | Ex-Veracode, Microsoft, SourceClear | Professor & Author | Advisor

    7,309 followers

    🧠 We just implemented the "third paradigm" for LLM learning - and the results are promising. Most of us know that leading AI applications like ChatGPT, Claude, and Grok achieve their impressive performance partly through sophisticated system prompts containing detailed reasoning strategies and problem-solving frameworks. Yet most developers and researchers work with basic prompts, missing out on these performance gains. 🚀 Introducing System Prompt Learning (SPL) Building on Andrej Karpathy's vision of a "third paradigm" for LLM learning, SPL enables models to automatically learn and improve problem-solving strategies through experience, rather than relying solely on pre-training or fine-tuning. ⚙️ How it works: 🔍 Automatically classifies incoming problems into 16 types 📚 Builds a persistent database of effective solving strategies 🎯 Selects the most relevant strategies for each new query 📊 Evaluates strategy effectiveness and refines them over time 👁️ Maintains human-readable, inspectable knowledge 📈 Results across mathematical benchmarks: OptILLMBench: 61% → 65% (+4%) MATH-500: 85% → 85.6% (+0.6%) Arena Hard: 29% → 37.6% (+8.6%) AIME24: 23.33% → 30% (+6.67%) After just 500 training queries, our system developed 129 strategies, refined 97 existing ones, and achieved 346 successful problem resolutions. ✨ What makes this approach unique: 🔄 Cumulative learning that improves over time 📖 Transparent, human-readable strategies 🔌 Works with any OpenAI-compatible API 🔗 Can be combined with other optimization techniques ⚡ Operates in both inference and learning modes 📝 Example learned strategy for word problems: 1. Understand: Read carefully, identify unknowns 2. Plan: Define variables, write equations 3. Solve: Step-by-step with units 4. Verify: Check reasonableness This represents early progress toward AI systems that genuinely learn from experience in a transparent, interpretable way - moving beyond static models to adaptive systems that develop expertise through practice. 🛠️ Implementation: SPL is available as an open-source plugin in optillm, our inference optimization proxy. Simple integration by adding "spl-" prefix to your model name. The implications extend beyond current capabilities - imagine domain-specific expertise development, collaborative strategy sharing, and human expert contributions to AI reasoning frameworks. 💭 What are your thoughts on LLMs learning from their own experience? Have you experimented with advanced system prompting in your work? #ArtificialIntelligence #MachineLearning #LLM #OpenSource #TechInnovation #ProblemSolving #AI #Research

  • View profile for Kuldeep Singh Sidhu

    Senior Data Scientist @ Walmart | BITS Pilani

    16,493 followers

    All the way from Korea, a novel approach called Mentor-KD significantly improves the reasoning abilities of small language models. Mentor-KD introduces an intermediate-sized "mentor" model to augment training data and provide soft labels during knowledge distillation from large language models (LLMs) to smaller models. Broadly, it’s a two-stage process: 1) Fine-tune the mentor on filtered Chain-of-Thought (CoT) annotations from an LLM teacher. 2) Use the mentor to generate additional CoT rationales and soft probability distributions. The student model is then trained using: - CoT rationales from both the teacher and mentor (rationale distillation). - Soft labels from the mentor (soft label distillation). Results show that Mentor-KD consistently outperforms baselines, with up to 5% accuracy gains on some tasks. Mentor-KD is especially effective in low-resource scenarios, achieving comparable performance to baselines while using only 40% of the original training data. This work opens up exciting possibilities for making smaller, more efficient language models better at complex reasoning tasks. What are your thoughts on this approach?

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