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| Feb 5, 2024 at 16:55 | comment | added | Speakpigeon | @vsz "it was not me who openly admitted that I believe something so fundamentally that I can tell in advance that absolutely no evidence to the contrary would ever be able to convince me" It was not me either. | |
| Feb 5, 2024 at 11:33 | comment | added | vsz | @Speakpigeon : it was not me who openly admitted that I believe something so fundamentally that I can tell in advance that absolutely no evidence to the contrary would ever be able to convince me. It was several of the commenters. I just expressed this observation. | |
| Feb 5, 2024 at 11:00 | comment | added | Speakpigeon | @vsz "it makes you not all that different from religious fundamentalists" Really?! This reminds me of those who, rather than try and understand by themselves what it is that other people really mean prefer to contrive absurd accusations just to prompt them to do the job of explicating themselves. A case of intellectual laziness. As you will remember, we have to "avoid extended discussions in comments". | |
| Feb 5, 2024 at 6:47 | comment | added | vsz | @Speakpigeon It's interesting to see so many reactions in this style. Usually, a strong atheist argument is a lack of direct evidence of the supernatural. But if you not only say that you did not yet see any evidence of the supernatural, but you state that no matter what evidence could occur in the future, you decided in advance that you will disregard them all, then it makes you not all that different from religious fundamentalists, who also decided in advance that they will reject any and all evidence which might be against their beliefs. | |
| Feb 1, 2024 at 17:31 | comment | added | Speakpigeon | @vsz "you'd conclude that some alien intelligence with vastly superior technology studied our largest religion and is playing a prank on us?" I said that this would be no proof of any supernatural entity. I cannot guaranty that my brain wouldn't make me believe, but even so my belief would still not be proof. | |
| Feb 1, 2024 at 14:12 | comment | added | lupe | @vsz I'd agree that this is the right call, from a logical perspective. The acts you describe do not require an upheaval in the laws of physics - it'd only need an alien intelligence with a few hundred years on us in technological development. God, however, requires a complete rethink of observable natural laws, and is infinitely complex. If, however, some guy in a robe shows up with a wheel that just keeps spinning faster and faster, I might trust the god explanation more. | |
| Feb 1, 2024 at 13:57 | comment | added | Baby_philosopher | @vsz How would you justify a god doing it being more likely than a superior technology playing a prank on us? You quite literally have no data to work with to make that conclusion either way. | |
| Feb 1, 2024 at 11:46 | comment | added | Scott Rowe | @vsz by that point, it wouldn't make much difference what we think. | |
| Feb 1, 2024 at 11:17 | comment | added | vsz | This means that if the end of the world comes exactly as prophesied in a certain prominent religion, with the resurrection of the dead, with angels descending upon the Earth, and God personally arriving to perform the final judgement, you'd conclude that some alien intelligence with vastly superior technology studied our largest religion and is playing a prank on us? | |
| Jan 31, 2024 at 16:59 | history | answered | Speakpigeon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |