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    sigh It would have been really nice for you to wake up with something in your inbox. "We are reaching out to Monica" sounds a lot more proactive than "We will reach out to Monica", indicating an awareness of the priority in addressing this failure of communication... Commented Oct 7, 2019 at 13:51
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    @Magisch I will be very disappointed if they wait days before even contacting me to apologize and talk about plans. It would call David's sincerity into question. I think his intentions are sincere and I look forward to seeing them backed by action. First steps ASAP will go a long way toward rebuilding trust. The whole problem won't be solved in one conversation, but we can start. Commented Oct 7, 2019 at 14:33
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    @aloisdg Yom Kippur starts tomorrow evening. It's also a big holiday. By analogy, scheduling a meeting late in the day on Christmas eve with a devout Christian (who has obligations that night and not just the next day) would not be ideal. Today would be much better than tomorrow; trust me. Commented Oct 7, 2019 at 15:48
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    @MonicaCellio Sorry that this happened to you. I hope everything is resolved in a manner that helps address the hurt that you've experienced and enables you to continue your wonderful participation in the communities you've been such an important part of. Commented Oct 7, 2019 at 17:57
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    I would hope they would at least reach out to Monica and say, "I apologize for us not following our process and for how we publicly responded to your dismissal. I recognize that hurt you. I apologize. After the holiday, would it be amenable for us to sit down, have a meeting about this, and see if there's a way forward?" Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 12:47
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    @GeorgeStocker that would be a good start, and something they ought to be able to do without lawyers. So far there's been no contact at all. Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 13:08
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    @GeorgeStocker “stated pronouns” includes neopronouns, not just “they”. Monica was demodded for suggesting that some of us can write well enough to avoid pronouns altogether and not make it seem weird in a chat room full of people already hurt by SE’s ham-handed handling of LBGTQ+ issues. There have been mods that have said unequivocally bigoted things directly to individuals in that room who weren’t demodded. Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 16:46
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    To amplify what @ColleenV said, people in that room said things to and about me that clearly violate the current CoC. They remain mods. Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 16:53
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    I don't want to go to court. I want SE to talk with me. Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 17:54
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    I'd appreciate it if the legal discussion could migrate elsewhere. I'm getting pinged on all of this. Thanks! Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 18:47
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    Everybody, including Stack Overflow Inc.: Yom Kippur will start very soon for me. Can we please all try to make Yom Kippur a less-evil day for me than Rosh Hashana was? Let's not have another day of defamation, personal attacks, and the like when I can't object, ok? Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 20:56
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    The point is, that you are not helping and both Monica and Catija have expressly asked people to rein in the unhelpful negativity on comments to this answer. Cease and desist. This is not the time or the place to be a keyboard warrior. Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 23:31
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    @JonH if this needs repeating, the right move is not to shrug it off and say good riddance. Although Monica has the overwhelming support of her communities and of Meta, where she participated with great enthusiasm and equanimity, her character has been tainted. Her future income might be affected (if it hasn't been already) whenever a future employer Googles her name. Reinstating her as a mod in at least one community (IMO) would do a lot to repair that damage. Commented Oct 10, 2019 at 7:34
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    The longer Monica goes here without any kind of satisfactory response, the more I'm convinced this apology was entirely insincere, and just a "let's pretend to be a bit humble to sweep this under the carpet" post. Commented Oct 10, 2019 at 21:45
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    Monica, thank you for keeping us updated. @DavidFullerton, I assume you know the community is following this post to see how this is resolved, but if not -- I at least have it bookmarked and am checking back regularly, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Commented Oct 14, 2019 at 16:00