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    While this is a great idea and in a fair world this should take place, SE does not give. They are a money-making money-hungry corporation now and we mean nothing to them. I think we need an open-source volunteer maintained alternative to SE to show them that WE are not the product. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:15
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    @SteelToe - Would you like to write a post about that idea somewhere, and provide a link here? Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:22
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    @Raaja That was locked because of an edit war. Take a look at the history. I locked it because I've been working for almost 19 hours and I can't watch it while I sleep. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:25
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    @TimPost - Get some good Z's. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:27
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    @Tim Post you need to talk to an employment lawyer. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:57
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    @henning No one is asking me to be here. I'm here because I need to be. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:57
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    @TimPost - We'll survive the night. Come on. It's time to call it a day. All the controversy will still be here tomorrow. Go in a room with no devices. Have a good rest. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 4:59
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    @Raaja I'm going to unlock it when I get in tomorrow. I simply can't rest while it's unlocked overnight (for me it's 1:08 AM) with an edit war brewing. Not ideal, I know, but we're doing what we can with what we've got. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 5:10
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    @TimPost if that is the case, then thanks and have a good night. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 5:15
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    We need to remind ourselves that Monica was not a paid employee; she is a volunteer, an ordinary user of a platform. As far as we know, her livelihood has not been affected, although her mental health has probably taken a hard knock. The likelihood of a face-to-face dialogue or meeting with SE representatives are stacked against her. It's not their style, and from what I know of American politics and business culture, conversations between employers and personel after dismissals or firings is the exception rather than the rule. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 7:37
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    They are a money-making money-hungry corporation now and we mean nothing to them while this seems to be somewhat true, at least truer than it used to be, I don't think the convictions that led to this specific crisis are money-driven or in some other way not genuine. A lot of the criticism of SO's actions in this is VERY justified but this seems unfair Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 11:06
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    @Mari-LouA when Joel first talked about Stack Overflow on his blog, he talked about it being a platform for professionals to both help each other and build some real-world reputation. He encouraged people to use their real names and led by example. Perhaps it was naive, but I followed suit. SE's actions, particularly going to the media, have the potential to affect my actual livelihood. SE never paid me but they can affect my future sources of income. Back then I thought the biggest risk of using my real name was offline trolling (which has happened). I was wrong. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 14:20
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    @MonicaCellio Yes, sorry I should have added a "yet" in there. And you're 100% right, you are identifiable because you have a name and last name, which is also why I advised that you seek legal advice. Commented Oct 4, 2019 at 14:26
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    @MonicaCellio On the nose. There was a throw away line in the movie Animal House that goes like this - "You messed up, you trusted us." (Messed was not the actual word). I hope that at least one person can learn a useful lesson from that, and I am so sorry that they may learn it at your expense. (Full disclosure: I feel that you have been treated terribly, given that you are a volunteer) Commented Oct 5, 2019 at 2:27
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    What's the point? SE made it crystal clear they don't want to talk with Monica and not going to reverse their decisions. They're buried very deep in the grave they dug to themselves. Commented Oct 5, 2019 at 8:23