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  • I believe I understand your position as I was convinced similarly for over four decades. Scripture alone changed my mind. I am still learning. (By the way, perhaps you already understand the discussion between Augustine and Pelagius?) On another note, Jesus is the plumb line. That's why He came. He, alone, meets the requirements. Thanks for your input here. +1 Commented Jan 22 at 22:40
  • @Don There's also the issue of whether to love the Lord with your whole heart/mind/soul is meant to imply a permanent condition. Some people certainly feel that way when they are newly converted but later on grow weary and lukewarm. What's that line from JC Superstar? - Once we were inspired. Now we're sad and tired. Commented Jan 23 at 0:03
  • Good point. Reminds the Laodicean church. Commented Jan 23 at 0:21